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作者: ccw 時間: 2014-2-27 09:40 標題: Surface Pro Open box (Videos added)

Finally a new notebook after 4 years, and my first tablet, a Surface Pro.
Using for 1 day, pretty cool.

Videos

-Full HD Screen, can't complain anything as it is more than enough for me.
-Very fast CPU as a tablet, quite fast CPU as a notebook. i5-3317U, passmark = 31xx, doubled my old notebook's T6500, almost a half of my workstation
-128GB SSD (not eMMC on iPad or Android tablet or Surface RT/2), very fast, much room to spare
-4GB RAM, not much but enough for most purposes (you will want 8GB if you do a lot photoshop)
-Wacom pen, a must have for a productive tablet
—Battery can last for four hours on continue use on balanced mode, could be longer using power saver. An external battery can give you another 6 hours
-Heavy? Yes comparing to an iPad, but it's just too light as a notebook that I can carry to lectures for writing my notes
-1 design fault: high pitch noise of CPU C3/4 states. This is found on all SP1 and 2, damn MS, but actually audible only at silent places.

Bought the Microsoft 2-year complete, not cheap ($150 CAD for 2 years, then $50 each accidental damages (max 2)),
but using a tablet with security is priceless

Here are the Pictures, enjoy.

Pen and paper

Pro Pen (left) vs Wacom Tablet Pen (right), to my surprise they are not compatible

Here we go

Videos will be added later

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-3-1 12:13 編輯 ]

作者: cheungmanhoi 時間: 2014-2-27 09:43

唔記得一樣好重要
就係SP2個支架好似係多角度過SP1

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-2-27 09:44

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原帖由 cheungmanhoi 於 2014-2-26 21:43 發表
唔記得一樣好重要
就係SP2個支架好似係多角度過SP1

Yes, but that's just an addition angle for putting on your lap;
I probably don't want to burn my brother.

作者: bebird 時間: 2014-2-27 09:53

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原帖由 ccw 於 27/2/2014 09:40 發表
Finally a new notebook after 4 years, and my first tablet, a Surface Pro.
Using for 1 day, pretty cool.

-Full HD Screen, can't complain anything as it is more than enough for me.
-Very fast CPU as a ...

if i've spare $, i also want to get one (and give up the laptop)

作者: cheungmanhoi 時間: 2014-2-27 09:55

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原帖由 ccw 於 2014-2-27 09:44 發表

Yes, but that's just an addition angle for putting on your lap;
I probably don't want to burn my brother.

如果我遲一年壞nb/果陣 u offer有做 surface 我就應該買左佢

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-2-27 10:23

[youtube]uR8n39hlVK8[/youtube]
Restart

[youtube]TXGLcDmRAmM[/youtube]
Writing

[youtube]DPdCD3uXSsY[/youtube]
Erase

[youtube]lNnOEpGe51k[/youtube]
News

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-2-27 01:12 編輯 ]

作者: pk1667 時間: 2014-2-27 10:28

請問係唔係 4GB ram 呀?

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-2-27 10:31

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原帖由 pk1667 於 2014-2-26 22:28 發表
請問係唔係 4GB ram 呀?

Oh yes, I should mark it down as well.

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-2-27 13:13

(Videos added)

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-2-27 01:17 編輯 ]

作者: pk1667 時間: 2014-2-27 17:47

請問呢隻 win8 係唔係去唔到傳統 desktop 模式架?

作者: bebird 時間: 2014-2-27 18:05

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原帖由 pk1667 於 27/2/2014 17:47 發表
請問呢隻 win8 係唔係去唔到傳統 desktop 模式架?

why not?
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg697127.aspx
[youtube]oT7cug3n8W8[/youtube]

[ 本帖最後由 bebird 於 2014-2-27 18:08 編輯 ]

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-2-27 19:53

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原帖由 pk1667 於 2014-2-27 05:47 發表
請問呢隻 win8 係唔係去唔到傳統 desktop 模式架?

去到，而且你喜歡的話，可以裝到Win 7，
其實哩部野同x86枱機完全一樣，裝Linux都得。

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-2-27 07:55 編輯 ]

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2014-2-27 19:56

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原帖由 ccw 於 2014-2-27 19:53 發表

去到，而且你喜歡的話，可以裝到Win 7，
其實哩部野同x86枱機完全一樣，裝Linux都得。

有無secured boot?

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-2-27 20:09

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2014-2-27 07:56 發表

有無secured boot?

UEFI?
可以disable.

另外佢有TPM module,可以encrypt C drive得來唔洗另外打開機pw

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-2-27 08:36 編輯 ]

作者: pk1667 時間: 2014-2-28 11:07

係唔係 wifi only?

作者: bebird 時間: 2014-2-28 12:16

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原帖由 pk1667 於 28/2/2014 11:07 發表
係唔係 wifi only?

for LAN, you need this:

USB to Ethernet port
http://www.microsoft.com/surface ... to-ethernet-adapter

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-1 13:07

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原帖由 pk1667 於 2014-2-27 23:07 發表
係唔係 wifi only?

Yes, I am not aware of an option with Cellular,
and for lan as bebird mentioned, you need an adapter.

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-3-1 01:40 編輯 ]

作者: toby 時間: 2014-3-5 11:11

原來又平左300,而家4668都有keyboard ,又痕啦我

電真係用到幾耐呀??

[ 本帖最後由 toby 於 2014-3-5 11:16 編輯 ]

作者: pk1667 時間: 2014-3-5 11:21

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原帖由 toby 於 2014-3-5 11:11 發表
原來又平左300,而家4668都有keyboard ,又痕啦我
電真係用到幾耐呀??

m$ 網無o左呢隻野囉

作者: toby 時間: 2014-3-5 11:36

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原帖由 pk1667 於 2014-3-5 11:21 發表

m$ 網無o左呢隻野囉

http://devices.microsoftstore.com.hk/product/surfacepro/9UR-00009
?
不過冇寫keyboard
原來有,,
http://devices.microsoftstore.com.hk/

作者: bebird 時間: 2014-3-5 13:46

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原帖由 toby 於 5/3/2014 11:36 發表

 http://devices.microsoftstore.com.hk/product/surfacepro/9UR-00009
?
不過冇寫keyboard
原來有,,
http://devices.microsoftstore.com.hk/

64GB $4688
128GB $5388

ccw brother in canada, HK$4800 (128GB)

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-6 07:46

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原帖由 bebird 於 2014-3-5 01:46 發表

64GB $4688
128GB $5388

ccw brother in canada, HK$4800 (128GB)

And now even cheaper ($4300 with student deal)

作者: leyland1989 時間: 2014-3-6 08:21

My classmate has the SP1

x230t is better

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-6 08:51

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原帖由 leyland1989 於 2014-3-5 20:21 發表
My classmate has the SP1
x230t is better

Your classmate made the right decision

作者: leyland1989 時間: 2014-3-6 09:09

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原帖由 ccw 於 2014-3-6 08:51 發表

Your classmate made the right decision

10.6" is too small for working

[ 本帖最後由 leyland1989 於 2014-3-6 09:12 編輯 ]

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-6 09:33

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原帖由 leyland1989 於 2014-3-5 21:09 發表

10.6" is too small for working

I actually expect to connect it to a monitor when I stay at my office in the future,
then 10.6 inch is perfect to carry around and do light office work when I am in the lab or out.

This size is great when I put it flat on the table and jot notes, after I tried it practically.

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-3-5 23:02 編輯 ]

作者: leyland1989 時間: 2014-3-6 11:00

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原帖由 ccw 於 2014-3-6 09:33 發表

I actually expect to connect it to a monitor when I stayed at my office in the future,
then 10.6 inch is perfect to carry around and do light office work when I am in the lab or out.

This size is gr ...

12~13" is a better size to me

作者: Puff 時間: 2014-3-6 16:05

SP is definitely a nicely built device. My friend got one SP2 to replace his Nexus 7 for digital drawing & notes taking, and have positive feedback so far. I've played it once and kickstand is more reliable and elegant as compared to those cover-based stands (iPad Smart Cover... yuk). but the screen size is a hurt (to me), and I love papers more for jotting notes, particularly doing maths, mind-mapping or brainstorming. The observable delay between the movement and the screen's response is annoying. It feels just like typing on a virtual keyboard versus mechanical keyboard - just the feel.

But if it is larger, maybe it won't be a nice tablet anymore. So... trade-off of a convertible. I'm devoted to my iPad, so... I look forward to a Surface Book, be it 13" or 15", with a nice keyboard.

[ 本帖最後由 Puff 於 2014-3-6 16:12 編輯 ]

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-7 03:42

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原帖由 Puff 於 2014-3-6 04:05 發表
SP is definitely a nicely built device. My friend got one SP2 to replace his Nexus 7 for digital drawing & notes taking, and have positive feedback so far. I've played it once and kickstand is more re ...

Definitely we will see how the hardware grows; they will need some time to get polished before hitting the sweet spot;
I am just quite sure that x86 Windows tablets are having a bright future.

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-3-6 17:28 編輯 ]

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-10 07:43

Wa dude
Surface Pro 128GB - $3600 HKD in Microsoft Online Store Canada

http://www.microsoftstore.com/st ... productID.283431300

作者: bebird 時間: 2014-3-10 08:54

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原帖由 ccw 於 10/3/2014 07:43 發表
Wa dude
Surface Pro 128GB - $3600 HKD in Microsoft Online Store Canada

http://www.microsoftstore.com/st ... productID.283431300

64GB version is only 2k

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-10 09:21

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原帖由 bebird 於 2014-3-9 20:54 發表

64GB version is only 2k

Yes if in stock, but I doubt if it ever would.
Anyway, the 128GB at this price is a fking steal, not even can I assemble a computer with this price using similar hardware regardless form factor,
not to mention the Windows 8 OS itself

作者: bebird 時間: 2014-3-10 09:29

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原帖由 ccw 於 10/3/2014 09:21 發表

Yes if in stock, but I doubt if it ever would.
Anyway, the 128GB at this price is a fking steal, not even can I assemble a computer with this price using similar hardware regardless form factor,
not ...

not in HK

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-10 09:34

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原帖由 bebird 於 2014-3-9 21:29 發表

not in HK

Actually I do find HK's electronic product availability is very passive;
except for popular things like Apple products, others are slow to appear and few have promotions.

For example, you can find no student deals for Surface as you could in Canada,
and on dell hk, they don't have the touch series of monitor which received very good feedback here.

作者: bebird 時間: 2014-3-10 11:18

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原帖由 ccw 於 10/3/2014 09:34 發表

Actually I do find HK's electronic product availability is very passive;
except for popular things like Apple products, others are slow to appear and few have promotions.

For example, you can find n ...

HK market is unimportant, too small

except mobile phone, mostly sell 2nd hand products or very common products

作者: cheungmanhoi 時間: 2014-3-10 11:44

我老豆睇完廣告想買Surface pro

作者: pk1667 時間: 2014-3-10 13:01

查實呢 D 機當平板用應該都 ok la

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-11 22:10

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原帖由 pk1667 於 2014-3-10 01:01 發表
查實呢 D 機當平板用應該都 ok la

I would not suggest this one if you really look for a tablet;
it's too heavy, too short battery life, and too few apps on Windows 8.
iPad Air would be the best option out there considering a tablet for portability and usability.

Surface Pro would be great only if you want a light notebook replacement, and would use it mainly when settled.
I am going to get a monitor in my office and connect it to Surface Pro, in that way I get a desktop in office, and a notebook elsewhere.

作者: cheungmanhoi 時間: 2014-3-12 09:34

how many gb leave for 128gb?

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-12 09:39

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原帖由 cheungmanhoi 於 2014-3-11 21:34 發表
how many gb leave for 128gb?

8X GB, without any modification.

http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/storage

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-3-11 21:41 編輯 ]

作者: cheungmanhoi 時間: 2014-3-12 11:53

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原帖由 ccw 於 2014-3-12 09:39 發表

8X GB, without any modification.

http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/storage

咁用64gb即係得20GB位

應該夠用嘅
btw 代買寄過來ok ?

[ 本帖最後由 cheungmanhoi 於 2014-3-12 11:56 編輯 ]

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-12 12:00

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原帖由 cheungmanhoi 於 2014-3-11 23:53 發表

咁用64gb即係得20GB位
應該夠用嘅
btw 代買寄過來ok ?

64GB out of stock now

The reason I didn't go for it is actually I didn't want to use it with care.....plus it was out of stock as well

作者: cheungmanhoi 時間: 2014-3-12 14:16

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原帖由 ccw 於 2014-3-12 12:00 發表

64GB out of stock now
The reason I didn't go for it is actually I didn't want to use it with care.....plus it was out of stock as well

128呢?

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-12 14:38

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原帖由 cheungmanhoi 於 2014-3-12 02:16 發表

128呢?

That is still in stock, but I am sorry that I might not be able to help with purchasing items currently,
as a student I have rather limited cash flow, my apology about this.

作者: toby 時間: 2014-3-17 00:06

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原帖由 cheungmanhoi 於 2014-3-12 11:53 發表

咁用64gb即係得20GB位
應該夠用嘅
btw 代買寄過來ok ?

未上8.1個陣2X激,岩岩升完個陣有30激
不過裝埋OFFICE,立立雜雜都有廿激既,已插左張8激SD卡落去擺住先..

作者: siuba 時間: 2014-3-17 04:45

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原帖由 toby 於 2014-3-17 00:06 發表

未上8.1個陣2X激,岩岩升完個陣有30激
不過裝埋OFFICE,立立雜雜都有廿激既,已插左張8激SD卡落去擺住先..

我刀買左..有咩app建議下？..
teamviewer touch我覺得唔好用..
facebook初初裝左之後del..但之後打算習慣下metro..裝返後玩split view又覺不錯..
我依家刀係得返2xGB..唔夠用..打算買張32GB microSD用..暫時留意到toshiba 32GB抵玩(95MB read 30MB write果隻)

作者: siuba 時間: 2014-3-17 04:48

btw..有無人知可唔可以將佢內建個office 2013變成開心版..XDDD
定uninstall左佢自己再裝過2013開心版上去？

作者: bebird 時間: 2014-3-17 10:50

if HK can have $2.xk 64GB version, i also want to buy 1

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-17 11:03

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原帖由 siuba 於 2014-3-16 16:48 發表
btw..有無人知可唔可以將佢內建個office 2013變成開心版..XDDD
定uninstall左佢自己再裝過2013開心版上去？

Or buy Office for University (if eligible), it's quite cheap ($6xx for 4 years, 2 PCs)

作者: siuba 時間: 2014-3-17 21:05

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原帖由 ccw 於 2014-3-17 11:03 發表

Or buy Office for University (if eligible), it's quite cheap ($6xx for 4 years, 2 PCs)

香港有無架？

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-17 22:33

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原帖由 siuba 於 2014-3-17 09:05 發表

香港有無架？

http://www.microsoftstore.com/st ... productID.260732200

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2014-3-17 10:35 編輯 ]

作者: toby 時間: 2014-3-18 00:21

引用:

原帖由 siuba 於 2014-3-17 04:45 發表

我刀買左..有咩app建議下？..
teamviewer touch我覺得唔好用..
facebook初初裝左之後del..但之後打算習慣下metro..裝返後玩split view又覺不錯..
我依家刀係得返2xGB..唔夠用..打算買張32GB microSD用..暫時留意到to ...

岩岩爬曬你係no.1個post

有冇d咩補品係taobao見到呀,一齊買啦

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-18 00:29

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原帖由 siuba 於 2014-3-16 16:45 發表

我刀買左..有咩app建議下？..
teamviewer touch我覺得唔好用..
facebook初初裝左之後del..但之後打算習慣下metro..裝返後玩split view又覺不錯..
我依家刀係得返2xGB..唔夠用..打算買張32GB microSD用..暫時留意到to ...

....somehow it's hard to suggest apps to users;
instead you should find out how you want to use your device, and then install the apps required.

For daily use, the apps I got were simply Weather, Calendar, Mail, Facebook, Skype and so on.

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-18 00:30

There is something called Surface Tweak Tool, sounds interesting and allows you to modify more to fit the way you use,
but as a 3rd party software modifying the system, do backup and use on your own risk:
http://www.surfaceforums.net/for ... -pro-2-release.html

作者: siuba 時間: 2014-3-18 02:26

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原帖由 ccw 於 2014-3-18 00:30 發表
There is something called Surface Tweak Tool, sounds interesting and allows you to modify more to fit the way you use,
but as a 3rd party software modifying the system, do backup and use on your own r ...

thanks~ let me c

作者: siuba 時間: 2014-3-18 02:28 標題: 回覆 55# siuba 的帖子

但好似 for surface pro 2 only.. (not for pro 1)

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-18 04:05

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原帖由 siuba 於 2014-3-17 14:28 發表
但好似 for surface pro 2 only.. (not for pro 1)

I pretty much believe it would work the same way;
Surface Pro 2 has mostly the same hardware exact the CPU and chipset, you may see how the people feedback

作者: siuba 時間: 2014-3-18 16:24

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原帖由 ccw 於 2014-3-18 04:05 發表

I pretty much believe it would work the same way;
Surface Pro 2 has mostly the same hardware exact the CPU and chipset, you may see how the people feedback

thanks~

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-23 23:30

Portable yet extensible, this is really a setup I longed.

作者: bebird 時間: 2014-3-24 10:47

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原帖由 ccw 於 23/3/2014 23:30 發表
Portable yet extensible, this is really a setup I longed.

why do u like such config?

作者: ccw 時間: 2014-3-24 21:12

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原帖由 bebird 於 2014-3-23 22:47 發表

why do u like such config?

Basically I have to often move from office to lab (just down the stairs),
or move to lectures with my Surface Pro.

Now I can have a fully functional, and easy to carry notebook for both lab and lectures;
but then when I move back to office, I have a large screen and standard keyboard and mouse to use my Surface Pro as a desktop.
Vertical screen is actually perfect for browsing and reading books/papers.

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