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標題: [硬件] 推土机版APU将改用新接口 Socket FMx [打印本頁]

作者: ccw    時間: 2011-6-15 13:22     標題: 推土机版APU将改用新接口 Socket FMx

Llano A系列APU发布的同时,我们再一次看到了AMD下代产品的路线图,有关推土机版APU的更多情报也被泄露出来。

        Llano APU使用的处理器核心还是K10 Stars架构,不过到了明年的Trinity APU就会换成众望所归的推土机核心(2-4个),而且号称是改进版的“下一代”,同时继续集成DX11 GPU图形核心、DDR3内存控制器,制造工艺还是32nm。

        基于推土机Trinity APU的桌面平台代号为“Virgo”(室女座)。有趣的是,在其简介重我们看到了“FMx infrasturcture”字样,不出意外的话这意味着推土机APU会再次使用新的封装接口“Socket FMx”,而不同于目前的Socket FM1。不知道笔记本平台上会不会顺应地从Socket FS1变成Socket FSx。

        Trinity APU将取代Llano APU占据主流桌面和移动市场,高端桌面领域则依然是独立的处理器,代号“Komodo”,也是下一代推土机架构(据说最多10个核心),封装接口同样是Socket FMx。这就意味着,明年的主流APU和高端CPU将统一平台,互相兼容,同时意味着高端CPU也不再使用南北桥芯片组架构,而是改成和现在Llano APU一样的FCH单芯片设计。

         Komodo处理器将搭配下一代独立显卡,看样子应该就是真正的南方群岛Radeon HD 7000系列了,二者组成的平台代号为“Corona”。

         入门级桌面和移动领域依然是APU的天下,主力型号代号“Krishna”,集成1-4个增强型山猫架构核心、DX11 GPU图形核心、DDR3内存控制器,生产工艺也改成新的28nm。

         专门针对平板机设计的“Wichita”也会同步出炉,架构基本同上。

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/196/196442.htm

F___!
Who would buy AM3+ Bulldozer now?!
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-6-15 15:30

可以理解...
明年bulldozer加PCI-E root
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-6-15 15:33

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-6-15 15:30 發表
可以理解...
明年bulldozer加PCI-E root
sigh, this does dim the upgrade path of AM3+.....although this is an usual practice of Intel.
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-6-15 15:35

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-6-15 15:33 發表

sigh, this does dim the upgrade path of AM3+.....although this is an usual practice of Intel.
加PCI-E就可以用Socket FM1...
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-6-15 16:55

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-6-15 15:35 發表

加PCI-E就可以用Socket FM1...
I am sorry but you mean using a PCI-E card to provide a socket?
作者: DICKXDV    時間: 2011-6-15 17:44

又改???

我等下一代APU先換機了.
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-6-15 19:45

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原帖由 DICKXDV 於 2011-6-15 17:44 發表
又改???

我等下一代APU先換機了.
I don't know what I can count on now,
will probably postpone the plan for a new computer....
作者: DICKXDV    時間: 2011-6-15 20:55

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-6-15 19:45 發表

I don't know what I can count on now,
will probably postpone the plan for a new computer....
等APU Trinity....3

我的手機...NexusOne--等N3
我的相機...原來G1(想)...改等G3

咩都係3字
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-6-15 20:57

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原帖由 DICKXDV 於 2011-6-15 20:55 發表


等APU Trinity....3

我的手機...NexusOne--等N3
我的相機...原來G1(想)...改等G3

咩都係3字
In fact, I want to spend the time I am having my workstudy to learn some Linux using a new computer, and that's why I can't wait more...
作者: dom    時間: 2011-6-16 14:27

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011/6/15 13:22 發表
Llano A系列APU发布的同时,我们再一次看到了AMD下代产品的路线图,有关推土机版APU的更多情报也被泄露出来。

        Llano APU使用的处理器核心还是K10 Stars架构,不过到了明年的Trinity APU就会换成众望所归的推土机 ...
Socket FM1+
作者: dom    時間: 2011-6-16 14:27

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011/6/15 15:30 發表
可以理解...
明年bulldozer加PCI-E root
AMD 重唔轉做 LGA ?
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-6-16 15:53

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-6-15 16:55 發表

I am sorry but you mean using a PCI-E card to provide a socket?
K8/K10/Bulldozer connects to the PCI-E root by Hypertransport (AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+)
Llano/Bobcat connects to the FCH by PCI-E (Socket Fx1)
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-6-16 16:58

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-6-16 15:53 發表


K8/K10/Bulldozer connects to the PCI-E root by Hypertransport (AM2/AM2+/AM3/AM3+)
Llano/Bobcat connects to the FCH by PCI-E (Socket Fx1)
It looks I have misunderstood your words,
my question is simple as whether I can install a FMx Bulldozer on a AM3+ main board.
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-6-16 16:58

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-6-16 16:58 發表

It looks I have misunderstood your words,
my question is simple as whether I can install a FMx Bulldozer on a AM3+ main board.
of course not
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-6-16 17:10

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-6-16 16:58 發表

of course not
That's what I meant to blame from the very beginning......
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-6-16 17:41

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-6-16 17:10 發表

That's what I meant to blame from the very beginning......
AMx的socket用左5年有多...

要改好正常...
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-6-16 17:52

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-6-16 17:41 發表

AMx的socket用左5年有多...

要改好正常...
The point is the upcoming Bulldozer is going to use a 5-year-old socket.....that way when i upgrade, I will need a new board.
I do agree a change is necessary but they should do it earlier for bulldozer, instead of leaving
a new architecture CPU on a old socket.
Maybe I am a bit picky but it does prohibit me from buying the AM3+ bulldozer.
作者: dom    時間: 2011-6-16 23:40

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011/6/16 17:52 發表

The point is the upcoming Bulldozer is going to use a 5-year-old socket.....that way when i upgrade, I will need a new board.
I do agree a change is necessary but they should do it earlier for bulldo ...
The problem is AMD should have change to LGA socket with Bulldozer
I am fine if Bulldozer "deliever" the performance and I am willing to change my MB for it

But instead of "new LGA" socket
AMD choose "SOCKET AM3" from the beginning , giving end-user able to use AM3 CPU on a Bulldozer board
Maybe AMD afraid  Bulldozer don't have enough "performance" ?
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-6-16 23:49

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原帖由 dom 於 2011-6-16 23:40 發表


The problem is AMD should have change to LGA socket with Bulldozer
I am fine if Bulldozer "deliever" the performance and I am willing to change my MB for it

But instead of "new LGA" socket
AMD choo ...
It just makes it worthless to invest on an expensive main board with AM3+ socket and telling that the first bulldozer is a transitional product.

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2011-6-16 23:50 編輯 ]
作者: dom    時間: 2011-6-19 03:29

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011/6/16 23:49 發表

It just makes it worthless to invest on an expensive main board with AM3+ socket and telling that the first bulldozer is a transitional product.
But AMD improved the memory overclocking capacity with 9-series chipset
作者: Heee    時間: 2011-6-19 09:26

that means..bulldozer got 2 sockets???




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