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作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 00:37     標題: Cooling solution?

Final question falls on the CPU cooling.

Using Intel Xeon E3-1235, 95W TDP, no OC, running 7x24.

I am thinking of CM 212+, 1 or 2 fans.
I would like to know which fan would you suggest, in case my focus is on noise-suppression.
There are just too many fans in the market and I do not have any study in this field.

Or you would suggest me use stock fan instead?

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2011-7-17 00:38 編輯 ]
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-7-17 09:13

don't use stock fan if you need noise-suppression
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 10:58

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-7-17 09:13 發表
don't use stock fan if you need noise-suppression
I don't really need a very quiet cooler, simply I want to avoid making noticeable sound during mid-night(This computer is at living room though).
Do you think CM 212+ can be quiet, if I install two slower fan on it?
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 11:19

Another question is the air pressure inside the chassis,
I am planning to build up a slightly positive pressure inside the chassis so that some air can be exhausted from the PCI slots holes.

Or instead I should just avoid +pressure?
Negative pressure will end up sucking dust from the PCI slots.
作者: BlackBird    時間: 2011-7-17 12:18

no tower-heatsink on stability-oriented system...
作者: lctang    時間: 2011-7-17 12:57

水冷
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 12:57

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原帖由 BlackBird 於 2011-7-17 12:18 發表
no tower-heatsink on stability-oriented system...
On what reason?
Too heavy, risk bending the MB?

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2011-7-17 13:04 編輯 ]
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 12:57

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原帖由 lctang 於 2011-7-17 12:57 發表
水冷
No such need, avoiding extra expense.
作者: tat0801    時間: 2011-7-17 13:12     標題: 回復 8# ccw 的帖子

those all in one water cooling is not very expensive when compared with high end air cooling
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-7-17 13:12

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-7-17 12:57 發表

On what reason?
Too heavy, risk bending the MB?
yes
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 13:19

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-7-17 13:12 發表

yes
This is one of my worry, actually I am thinking of other solution besides tower heatsink,
How about this?
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2421
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 13:20

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原帖由 tat0801 於 2011-7-17 13:12 發表
those all in one water cooling is not very expensive when compared with high end air cooling
I know nothing about water cooling at the moment,
is the maintenance cost high and the coolant needed to be replaced quite frequently?
作者: BlackBird    時間: 2011-7-17 13:30

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-7-17 12:57 發表

On what reason?
Too heavy, risk bending the MB?
only the cpu needs cooling?
作者: dom    時間: 2011-7-17 13:33

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011/7/17 12:57 發表

No such need, avoiding extra expense.
一體式水冷其實唔係你想像中咁貴

隔離台 rex 個套街價賣緊 $6xx
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 13:34

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原帖由 BlackBird 於 2011-7-17 13:30 發表

only the cpu needs cooling?
At the moment I am only planning for the CPU, I am not using a discrete display.
作者: dom    時間: 2011-7-17 13:34

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原帖由 BlackBird 於 2011/7/17 12:18 發表
no tower-heatsink on stability-oriented system...
How about AXP140
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 13:37

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原帖由 dom 於 2011-7-17 13:34 發表


How about AXP140
Just searched a bit for this, it looks it could block the ram slots......
Using this MB(ASUS P8B WS):


[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2011-7-17 13:38 編輯 ]
作者: BlackBird    時間: 2011-7-17 13:50

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-7-17 13:34 發表

At the moment I am only planning for the CPU, I am not using a discrete display.


voltage regulator/ram/blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 13:55

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原帖由 BlackBird 於 2011-7-17 13:50 發表



voltage regulator/ram/blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah
I am not sure, please let me know if those ram and voltage regulator(isn't it already having some heat sink?) needs also cooling system.
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-7-17 14:04

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-7-17 13:55 發表

I am not sure, please let me know if those ram and voltage regulator(isn't it already having some heat sink?) needs also cooling system.
the heatsink are not very good and you need fan if you need absolute stability
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 14:13

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-7-17 14:04 發表


the heatsink are not very good and you need fan if you need absolute stability
Not really such a serious matter, I don't have plans for modification on the mainboard yet, at least not now.
I may replace those heatsinks when I find them an issue.
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-7-17 14:14

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-7-17 14:13 發表

Not really such a serious matter, I don't have plans for modification on the mainboard yet, at least not now.
I may replace those heatsinks when I find them an issue.
if you use tower hs, then the cpu fan cannot cool it
if you use normal one, the cpu fan can cool the pwm
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 14:16

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-7-17 14:14 發表

if you use tower hs, then the cpu fan cannot cool it
if you use normal one, the cpu fan can cool the pwm
I see, thank you for telling, I am now considering non-tower cooler.
作者: BlackBird    時間: 2011-7-17 14:27

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-7-17 13:55 發表

I am not sure, please let me know if those ram and voltage regulator(isn't it already having some heat sink?) needs also cooling system.
simple talk
heatsink is useless when nothing diffusing the heat

[ 本帖最後由 BlackBird 於 2011-7-17 14:28 編輯 ]
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 14:47

Thanks for the idea,
I will probably make a decision based on the situation of the mainboard later.
Can't even figure out would the heatsinks and cooling fans fit without the mainboard at hand.
作者: lctang    時間: 2011-7-17 17:07

一體水冷係唔要換水

ref
http://www.techorz.com/hardware/ ... id-cooling-compare/

$ = 400
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=121460
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-17 17:39

how about this?
http://www.price.com.hk/product.php?p=128235

Actually water cooling is ok,(if the installation and maintenance is that easy)
but I will need to think of mosfet and chipset cooling later.
Probably will install these:
Mosfet: http://www.pcbulb.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=68_217
Ram: http://www.pcbulb.com/index.php? ... mp;products_id=1766
C206: http://www.pcbulb.com/index.php? ... mp;products_id=1745

But all depends on budget and compatibility(I will need to check exactly the room )
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-18 21:00

Damn, Wai Fong is no longer selling mosfet and ram heatsink........
Do you know where I can find them in HK?

Btw, I will probably use this:
Scythe Zipang 2 SCZP-2000
So that the small heat sink of mosfet can be looked after.

The Chipset heatsink is still available.
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-18 21:19

Just spot this
http://www.hkepc.com/forum/viewt ... p;extra=&page=1

But too heavy and probably will bend the mb......
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-18 22:19

Passive cooler
Thermalright HR-05 IFX
http://www.thermalright.com/new_ ... cooler_hr05_ifx.htm
vs
Active cooler
Thermaltake Spirit A100 Northbirdge Chipset Cooler CLC0051
http://www.crazypc.com/products/CLC0051.html

Which one would be better?

And also the same question on ram and other components.
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2011-7-18 22:30

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-7-18 22:19 發表
Passive cooler
Thermalright HR-05 IFX
http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/product_page/chipset/hr05_ifx/product_chitset_cooler_hr05_ifx.htm
vs
Active cooler
Thermaltake Spirit A100 Northbirdge Chip ...
passive + air circulation or active
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-18 22:33

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-7-18 22:30 發表

passive + air circulation or active
I know, just wondering which one is better,
as the active one is far more easier to install and fit......
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-18 23:00

Looks the easiest solution will be :
C206 : Passive cooling by Thermalright HR-05 IFX
Ram : Active Cooling by simple heatsink + ram-fan
CPU : Thermalright AXP-140RT

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2011-7-18 23:03 編輯 ]
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-19 00:11

OK, please help me to deicde between the below two sets of cooling solution:
1. Passive Cooling, counts on circulation inside chassis
CPU = stock fan/or very small fan
Mosfet = Thermalright HR09U Mosfet Heatpipe Cooler(Size depends)
Ram = Thermalright HR-07 Ram Heatsink
Chipset = Thermalright HR-05 IFX Chipset Cooler

2. Active Cooling
CPU = Noctua NH-C14
Mosfet = stock, cooled by CPU cooler
Ram = Zalman ZM-RC1000 記憶體散熱扇
Chipset = Thermalright HR-05 IFX Chipset Cooler

Please comment and help me choose, thank you.

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2011-7-19 11:02 編輯 ]
作者: ccw    時間: 2011-7-19 11:04

After reading some reviews of Noctua NH-C14, it looks the best option for cooling both VRM and CPU.
Decided to take plan 2 with it.
Please let me know if there is any hidden issue with the setting.

Cooling system ready.

[ 本帖最後由 ccw 於 2011-7-22 10:24 編輯 ]




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