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作者: Henry 時間: 2011-9-7 05:08 標題: SB-E快要賣街了

http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=273157
C大都開始替3930K做測試了,底板都七七八八啦.

BD去左邊啊?

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2011-9-7 05:09

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-7 05:08 發表
 http://forum.coolaler.com/showthread.php?t=273157
C大都開始替3930K做測試了,底板都七七八八啦.

BD去左邊啊?

BD 9月launch
賣街唔知

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2011-9-7 08:04

Desktop bulldozer: October

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu ... _Launch_Lineup.html

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-7 12:47

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011/9/7 08:04 發表
Desktop bulldozer: October

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu ... _Launch_Lineup.html

口臭講中 .........

真係同肥龍 Launch 翻版

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-7 13:34

DAMMMMMMM
DELAY To Q4 2011

作者: bebird 時間: 2011-9-7 13:38

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原帖由 dom 於 2011-9-7 13:34 發表
DAMMMMMMM
DELAY To Q4 2011

luckily didn't buy AM3+ MB & wait

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-7 13:44

DAM IT , Time to sell Crosshair V

作者: ccw 時間: 2011-9-7 14:14

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原帖由 dom 於 2011-9-7 13:44 發表
DAM IT , Time to sell Crosshair V

Sometimes you have to compromise, like me, just buy a cheap cheap Intel Board to play for some months before you can get what you really want.

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-7 15:58

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011/9/7 14:14 發表

Sometimes you have to compromise, like me, just buy a cheap cheap Intel Board to play for some months before you can get what you really want.

My 1090T + Crosshair IV serve me well (Miyuki R2)
So I don't really need upgrade as Bulldozer DELAY AGAIN

作者: bebird 時間: 2011-9-7 16:04

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原帖由 dom 於 2011-9-7 15:58 發表

My 1090T + Crosshair IV serve me well (Miyuki R2)
So I don't really need upgrade as Bulldozer DELAY AGAIN

when it'll release, u'll change it

作者: ccw 時間: 2011-9-7 16:38

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原帖由 dom 於 2011-9-7 15:58 發表

My 1090T + Crosshair IV serve me well (Miyuki R2)
So I don't really need upgrade as Bulldozer DELAY AGAIN

If I were you, I would rather wait until there is a FM2 APU with Bulldozer microarchitecture........or go for Intel.

作者: Henry 時間: 2011-9-7 17:34

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011-9-7 16:38 發表

If I were you, I would rather wait until there is a FM2 APU with Bulldozer microarchitecture........or go for Intel.

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-7 19:41

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu ... tml#discussion_last

OH HOLY SHXX .......
Things become UGLY ......

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-7 19:46

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011/9/7 16:38 發表

If I were you, I would rather wait until there is a FM2 APU with Bulldozer microarchitecture........or go for Intel.

Ok I guess I will put on Hold for now

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-7 19:47

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011/9/7 17:34 發表

Intel HELL No

作者: 賓尼._. 時間: 2011-9-7 19:48

其待超頻能力

作者: ccw 時間: 2011-9-7 19:49

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原帖由 dom 於 2011-9-7 19:41 發表
 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu ... tml#discussion_last

OH HOLY SHXX .......
Things become UGLY ..... ...

This is such a holy......
Very wise of me to give it up so early.

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-7 22:11

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原帖由 ccw 於 2011/9/7 19:49 發表

This is such a holy......
Very wise of me to give it up so early.

Well have fun with your new rig

作者: ccw 時間: 2011-9-7 22:21

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原帖由 dom 於 2011-9-7 22:11 發表

Well have fun with your new rig

Still waiting for my real rig

Damn you Tyan, build C202 and C204 and now a rubbish Q67 but not a C206!
I really think that Intel or someone is trying to hinder the companies from building a usable C206 board for E3-12x5 CPUs....

作者: Tommi_Vercetti 時間: 2011-9-8 00:03

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原帖由 賓尼._. 於 2011-9-7 19:48 發表
其待超頻能力

只留意其外頻設定能否回復正常做法，唔好下下走去Cherry Pick倍頻先有得超

作者: Henry 時間: 2011-9-8 00:35

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原帖由 Tommi_Vercetti 於 2011-9-8 00:03 發表

只留意其外頻設定能否回復正常做法，唔好下下走去Cherry Pick倍頻先有得超

Multi+Bus.

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-8 00:58

http://www.overclock.net/tankguy ... pre-order-info.html
Looks like Bulldozer is not competitive ...........
Cheaper than 2600K = FX FAILED to Beat Sandy Bridge

Good luck with AMD .......facing Ivy Bridge in 2012 will repeat K8 Vs Core 2 Duo .....

作者: Tommi_Vercetti 時間: 2011-9-8 03:09

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-8 00:35 發表

Multi+Bus.

問題係外頻組合選擇太小，而外頻又超唔起，等於又要cherrypick倍頻

作者: Henry 時間: 2011-9-8 04:02

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原帖由 Tommi_Vercetti 於 2011-9-8 03:09 發表

問題係外頻組合選擇太小，而外頻又超唔起，等於又要cherrypick倍頻

1: 外頻有得1MHz上
2: RAM基本上有1:6-8(9-10有可能,未知)

Bus 100MHz,對RAM除頻係行133MHz (1.33x)
假設RAM行DDR3 2000(1000MHz)
1:6 -> 1:7 = 166MHz - 142MHz = 24MHz (Bus 18MHz)
1:7 -> 1:8 = 142MHz - 125MHz = 17MHz (Bus 13MHz)
100上125(25%),行DMI應該上到啦掛

RAM行DDR3 2400(1200MHz)
1:8 = 150MHz (Bus 120MHz)
Bus先上20%,比DDR3 2000行1:6仲要鬆動.
1:6 = 200MHz (Bus 150MHz)
如果Bus可以上到50%,RAM既比例一樣能夠配合.

假設CPU行4G, DDR3 2000同DDR3 2400個倍頻差:
@DDR3 2400 (1:8): 4000/125 = 32x
@DDR3 2000 (1:6): 4000/120 = 33x(34x),先差1-2倍.

適當利用FSB極限同RAM除頻係關鍵,況且1155個Bus得果少少調都係咁超RAM.
假設CPU行5GHz,行100MHz就50x,125MHz就40x,150MHz就33x(34x).
上25MHz已經有10x既差距,應該能夠彌補上唔到倍頻既問題.

選擇太小: 而家仲有得果100/125/133/150/166幾種配搭?咩年代?

[ 本帖最後由 Henry 於 2011-9-8 04:04 編輯 ]

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2011-9-8 08:41

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-8 04:02 發表

1: 外頻有得1MHz上
2: RAM基本上有1:6-8(9-10有可能,未知)

Bus 100MHz,對RAM除頻係行133MHz (1.33x)
假設RAM行DDR3 2000(1000MHz)
1:6 -> 1:7 = 166MHz - 142MHz = 24MHz (Bus 18MHz)
1:7 -> 1:8 = 142MHz - 125MH ...

最主要唔係外頻係咪有得1MHz咁上
而係base clock個clock係咪同pci-e tie埋一齊

tie埋一齊就110MHz到頂

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2011-9-8 08:46

可惜, base clock tie pci-e clokc係大勢所趨

intel / amd明年ship的platform, 80%以上 (Socket 1155 / Socket FM1 / FM2) 都會係default base clock tie with pci-e clock

作者: dom 時間: 2011-9-8 09:55

http://www.amd.com/us/press-rele ... ssors-2011sep7.aspx
http://blogs.amd.com/work/2011/09/07/the-start-of-a-new-era/
Well Bulldozer is Shipping (Server)

[ 本帖最後由 dom 於 2011-9-8 09:57 編輯 ]

作者: Henry 時間: 2011-9-8 14:14

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-9-8 08:41 發表

最主要唔係外頻係咪有得1MHz咁上
而係base clock個clock係咪同pci-e tie埋一齊

tie埋一齊就110MHz到頂

X79應該未係喎.
如果係既話,好似1155咁用內置clockgen就得啦,省時省力,反正都超唔到.

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2011-9-8 18:05

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-8 14:14 發表

X79應該未係喎.
如果係既話,好似1155咁用內置clockgen就得啦,省時省力,反正都超唔到.

x79都係PCH, 你話呢

作者: Henry 時間: 2011-9-8 18:19

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-9-8 18:05 發表

x79都係PCH, 你話呢

睇定D先,板都未出,BIOS都仲係有Bug咁樣.
Bus上到20-25%基本上已經有足夠超RAM空間之餘,亦能夠抵銷倍頻限制.
如果Bus對PCI-E都有得除頻基本上無障礙.

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2011-9-8 18:28

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-8 18:19 發表

睇定D先,板都未出,BIOS都仲係有Bug咁樣.
Bus上到20-25%基本上已經有足夠超RAM空間之餘,亦能夠抵銷倍頻限制.
如果Bus對PCI-E都有得除頻基本上無障礙.

最怕係tie

intel / amd 都向住tie (用同1 clock gen) 既方向走

作者: Henry 時間: 2011-9-8 18:35

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-9-8 18:28 發表

最怕係tie

intel / amd 都向住tie (用同1 clock gen) 既方向走

不過Intel X79咁強調用外置Clockgen同超頻能力,應該有得唔tie掛.....

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2011-9-8 18:38

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-8 18:35 發表

不過Intel X79咁強調用外置Clockgen同超頻能力,應該有得唔tie掛.....

睇下出果陣點了

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