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Sales of Sun/Oracle servers based on x86 microprocessors by Intel Corp. have been stagnating or declining for some time now. While Sun Microsystems was a significant maker of mainstream servers and was interested to innovate in this field, Oracle calls those systems "commodities" and does not mind if their sales go to "zero". The company believes that selling enterprise software and mission-critical hardware will make it more stronger and more profitable.

"I do not care if our commodity x86 business goes to zero. We do not make any money selling those things. We have no interest in selling other people's intellectual property; commodity x86 includes Intel IP and Microsoft IP. We do not make money selling that stuff, and we are phasing out that business. We have interest in selling systems that include our IP. That's how we're going to drive the profitability of our overall Hardware business, eventually," said Larry Ellison, chief executive officer of Oracle, during a conference call with financial analysts on Tuesday.

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-9-22 01:39 發表
 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/oth ... in_x86_Servers.html

UltraSparc對住Mission-critical Xeon... 唔係好著數咋喎
當然成本上UltraSparc好過Xe ...

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-22 06:16 發表

以前就話UltraSparc快好多.
而家D Xeon咁變態,UltraSparc果種優勢好似已經無左.
除非真係玩MP櫃,玩Blade就.....

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-9-22 12:44 發表

...
Mission-critical呀

Intel x86係近1-2年先開始有mission-critical series (Nehalem-EX)
Itanium本身係mission critical, 不過得番HP同佢頂

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-22 16:05 發表

Xeon以前都好似有(Xeon MP + E8870, 4-8+CPU),不過效能就.....
係而家Nehalem-EX有4Ch D3同QPI先叫似D樣.

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SANTA CLARA, May 26, 2009 – Intel Corporation today previewed a new Intel® Xeon® processor codenamed "Nehalem-EX." The processor will be at the heart of the next generation of intelligent and expandable high-end Intel server platforms, which will deliver a number of new technical advancements and boost enterprise computing performance.

In production later this year, the Nehalem-EX processor will feature up to eight cores inside a single chip supporting 16 threads and 24MB of cache. Its performance increase will be dramatic, posting the highest-ever jump from a previous generation processor.1

Nehalem-EX will add new reliability, availability and serviceability (RAS) features traditionally found in the company's Intel® Itanium processor family, such as Machine Check Architecture (MCA) Recovery. Together with new levels of performance, both high-end processors should speed the move away from more expensive, proprietary RISC-processor based systems.

Ideal for server consolidation, virtualized applications, data demanding enterprise applications and technical computing environments, Nehalem-EX will offer up to nine times the memory bandwidth1 of the previous-generation Intel Xeon 7400 platform. Nehalem-EX will also double the memory capacity with up to 16 memory slots per processor socket, and offer four high-bandwidth QuickPath Interconnect links. Nehalem-EX will provide tremendous scalability, from large-memory two-socket systems through eight-socket systems capable of processing 128 threads simultaneously without the need for third-party chips to "glue" the platform together. Additional scalability options including greater sockets counts will be possible with third-party solutions.

Intel delivers the most complete server portfolio: The Xeon 5500 series delivers leading performance, energy efficiency and flexibility for infrastructure applications. ++Nehalem-EX will greatly improve on today's Intel Xeon 7400 scalable performance, flexibility and advanced RAS features for data demanding enterprise applications and server consolidation. Itanium delivers the highest scalability and most advanced RAS features for the most demanding environments.

The Nehalem-EX Advantage

Intel Nehalem Architecture built on Intel's unique 45nm high-k metal gate technology process

Up to 8 cores per processor

Up to 16 threads per processor with Intel® Hyper-threading

Scalability up to eight sockets via Quick Path Interconnects and greater with third-party node controllers

QuickPath Architecture with four high-bandwidth links

24MB of shared cache

Integrated memory controllers

Intel Turbo Boost Technology

Intel scalable memory buffer and scalable memory interconnects

Up to 9x the memory bandwidth of previous generation

Support for up to 16 memory slots per processor socket

Advanced RAS capabilities including MCA Recovery

2.3 billion transistors

From RISC to Reward: Customers Migrating to Xeon- and Itanium-based platforms
With new RAS capabilities for high-end enterprises, Nehalem-EX can accelerate IT adoption of Intel-based platforms over RISC-based platforms by delivering a lower total cost of ownership, higher performance, lower electricity bills and the ability to standardize on a flexible IT environment. The Intel Itanium processor delivers mainframe-class reliability for mission-critical workloads and enables the greatest scalability, especially for highly threaded workloads. Itanium offers greater than eight-socket system configurations and is ideal for applications that access the largest memory pools.

Availability
Nehalem-EX is scheduled for production in the second half of 2009.

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-9-22 16:12 發表
調番轉咁講, 可能Oracle都開始有壓力, 所以要力保mission-critical server的market share / revenue
呢個market多多錢都肯俾

你試下馬會 / HSBC突然間死server?

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-22 19:56 發表
咁UltraSparc咁多代以來有無RAS? (我覺得有,始終當年同Itanium同類別)
用以前既Xeon MP個效能加RAS,你估有無人受?

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-9-22 19:56 發表

why not
price matters

問題係intel肯唔肯要比較低的margin

所以我覺得intel入手機市場有d怪
因為margin唔會高 (

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-22 20:38 發表

可能Desktop開始無肉食,手機都要殺.
你知Lenovo/Dell果D壓價.....

就算真係用以前既Xeon MP個效能加RAS,$/FLOPs應該要輸,所以UltraSparc個位先坐得穩.
Intel邊會咁好死用DP價賣MP去同UltraSparc對撼. ...

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2011-9-23 00:13 發表
 http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/oth ... ocessors_in_Q4.html

原來係咁

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原帖由 Henry 於 2011-9-23 03:56 發表

擺明淆Xeon底.