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作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:03     標題: 打 Review

Sempron History 都夠打死人
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:03

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Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:03:
Sempron History 都夠打死人
post去邊?
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:04

引用:
Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:03:


post去邊?
Of coz eTech, 特允吹水部屋有轉載權只限我寫既
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:05

引用:
Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:04:

Of coz eTech, 特允吹水部屋有轉載權只限我寫既

作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:05

死...前排先睇完 K7 同 K8 有咩分別, 唔記得晒添
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:06

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Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:05:
死...前排先睇完 K7 同 K8 有咩分別, 唔記得晒添
FSB => HTT
SOI
Int. Mem. Controller
64-bit extension
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:09

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Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:06:


FSB => HTT
SOI
Int. Mem. Controller
64-bit extension
仲有架

K7 理論上係可以有 8M L2 Cache ( chisin )
K8 理論上會減到去 1M L2 Cache, 所以我地永遠都唔會見到有 K8 CPU 擁有 2M L2 Cache, 如果要再加 Cache, AMD 會加 L3 Cache
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:10

引用:
Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:09:

仲有架

K7 理論上係可以有 8M L2 Cache ( chisin )
K8 理論上會減到去 1M L2 Cache, 所以我地永遠都唔會見到有 K8 CPU 擁有 2M L2 Cache, 如果要再加 Cache, AMD 會加 L3 Cache
L3
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:10

其實 HTT 有咩好?
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:11

引用:
Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:09:

仲有架

K7 理論上係可以有 8M L2 Cache ( chisin )
K8 理論上會減到去 1M L2 Cache, 所以我地永遠都唔會見到有 K8 CPU 擁有 2M L2 Cache, 如果要再加 Cache, AMD 會加 L3 Cache
呢個反而唔重要.....
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:11

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Originally posted by 真.飛鳥 at 2005-12-25 17:10:

L3
睇見 K7 咁既樣, 你唔係 expect 真係會有 L3 Cache 既 K8 出現嘛
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:12

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Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:11:


呢個反而唔重要.....
所以我唔會寫落去, 知道就算
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:12

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Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:10:
其實 HTT 有咩好?
Direct point to point (serial) transfer:
=> low cost
=> open architecture (nf2 uses HTT for nb / sb transfer)
=> multi-processor advantage (opteron beats xeon)
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:13

引用:
Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:11:

睇見 K7 咁既樣, 你唔係 expect 真係會有 L3 Cache 既 K8 出現嘛
不過平民用 cpu 好似仲未有含 L3 ge CPU 喎
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:13

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Originally posted by 真.飛鳥 at 2005-12-25 17:13:

不過平民用 cpu 好似仲未有含 L3 ge CPU 喎


P$XE
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:14

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Originally posted by 真.飛鳥 at 2005-12-25 17:13:

不過平民用 cpu 好似仲未有含 L3 ge CPU 喎
Pentium 4 Extreme Edition Gallatin Core 咪有 2M L3
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:14

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Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:13:



P$XE
o下
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:14

引用:
Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:12:


Direct point to point (serial) transfer:
=> low cost
=> open architecture (nf2 uses HTT for nb / sb transfer)
=> multi-processor advantage (opteron beats xeon)
睇來我又要用 yahoo! search
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:14

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Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:14:

Pentium 4 Extreme Edition Gallatin Core 咪有 2M L3
諗住打低A64FX, 點知.......
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:15

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Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:14:

睇來我又要用 yahoo! search
www.hypertransport.org
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:16

引用:
Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:14:

Pentium 4 Extreme Edition Gallatin Core 咪有 2M L3
我好似未聽過+未見過
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:16

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Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:14:


諗住打低A64FX, 點知.......
影都冇
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:16

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Originally posted by 真.飛鳥 at 2005-12-25 17:16:

我好似未聽過+未見過
你唔識 =/= 冇
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:17

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Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:16:

你唔識 =/= 冇
有冇圖同測試報告看下
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:17

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Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:14:


諗住打低A64FX, 點知.......
其實 P4XE 各方面真係好左, 尤其 3D 果面, 雖然都仲係打唔贏 A64FX

係 A64FX 進步比 P4XE 大少少
作者: ICE    時間: 2005-12-25 17:18

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Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 05:14 PM:


諗住打低A64FX, 點知.......
gallatin係s478已經有
作者: Totti    時間: 2005-12-25 17:18

引用:
Originally posted by ICE at 2005-12-25 17:18:

gallatin係s478已經有

作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:19

引用:
Originally posted by ICE at 2005-12-25 17:18:

gallatin係s478已經有
果陣只係用起 Xeon 上面

後尾 A64 定 A64FX 出...先拉落來變 P4XE
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:20

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Originally posted by 真.飛鳥 at 2005-12-25 17:17:

有冇圖同測試報告看下
toms大把
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:20

引用:
Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 17:19:

果陣只係用起 Xeon 上面

後尾 A64 定 A64FX 出...先拉落來變 P4XE
點知A64FX實在太勁
作者: ICE    時間: 2005-12-25 17:20

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Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 05:19 PM:

果陣只係用起 Xeon 上面
有478?鮥4ee(gallatin)喎==
作者: Totti    時間: 2005-12-25 17:21

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Originally posted by ICE at 2005-12-25 17:20:

有478?鮥4ee(gallatin)喎==
Xeon Core用落S478到
作者: ICE    時間: 2005-12-25 17:21

fx系列係咪由fx55先變64bit?
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:22

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Originally posted by ICE at 2005-12-25 17:20:

有478?鮥4ee(gallatin)喎==
我知 XD 我以為你講 Gallatin 起 S478 ( 未到 P4XE ) 年代已經有
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 17:22

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Originally posted by ICE at 2005-12-25 17:21:
fx系列係咪由fx55先變64bit?
A64 打上一路都係 64bit
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:22

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Originally posted by ICE at 2005-12-25 17:21:
fx系列係咪由fx55先變64bit?


所有Athlon 64(包括fx)都有64-bit
(ClawHammer開始)
作者: Totti    時間: 2005-12-25 17:23

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Originally posted by ICE at 2005-12-25 17:21:
fx系列係咪由fx55先變64bit?
FX51已經有
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:26

搵到 lu


作者: Totti    時間: 2005-12-25 17:29

引用:
Originally posted by 真.飛鳥 at 2005-12-25 17:26:
搵到 lu


作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:30

引用:
Originally posted by Totti at 2005-12-25 17:29:


p$xe都係多L3 Cache.........
根本唔合成本效益
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:30

引用:
Originally posted by Totti at 2005-12-25 17:29:
我看到喎
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:30

引用:
Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:30:



p$xe都係多L3 Cache.........
根本唔合成本效益
P4EE = P4XE ?
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:31

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Originally posted by 真.飛鳥 at 2005-12-25 17:30:

P4EE = P4XE ?
EXtreme edition
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:31

引用:
Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:31:

EXtreme edition
...........................
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:33

引用:
Originally posted by 真.飛鳥 at 2005-12-25 17:31:

...........................
真係咁解架
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:35

引用:
Originally posted by qcmadness at 2005-12-25 17:33:

真係咁解架
好少聽人講做 P4EE ,多數叫 P4XE

[ Last edited by 真.飛鳥 on 2005-12-25 at 17:38 ]
作者: qcmadness    時間: 2005-12-25 17:37

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Originally posted by 真.飛鳥 at 2005-12-25 17:35:

好似聽人講做 P4EE ,多數叫 P4XE
都係咁

而家A64 FX仲可以賣d
作者: Totti    時間: 2005-12-25 17:38

P4EE=/=P4XE
作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 17:38

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Originally posted by Totti at 2005-12-25 17:38:
P4EE=/=P4XE
???
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 19:44

引用:
Originally posted by Totti at 2005-12-25 17:38:
P4EE=/=P4XE


Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 不嬲都係叫 P4XE, 係當時唔知點解變左 EE 出來
作者: Totti    時間: 2005-12-25 20:01

引用:
Originally posted by BeleBala at 2005-12-25 19:44:



Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 不嬲都係叫 P4XE, 係當時唔知點解變左 EE 出來
P4EE係Socket 478果隻
P4XE係LGA775果D
作者: BeleBala    時間: 2005-12-25 20:12

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Originally posted by Totti at 2005-12-25 20:01:

P4EE係Socket 478果隻
P4XE係LGA775果D

作者: XT    時間: 2005-12-25 20:42

引用:
Originally posted by Totti at 2005-12-25 20:01:

P4EE係Socket 478果隻
P4XE係LGA775果D
唔怪得我唔識啦
s478 果 d 我都唔熟 ge
LGA775 先熟 ...




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