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作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-8 02:21 標題: 講極都死拗話 Faildozer 係8Core

都話左 AMD Faildozer 唔係真8核囉
性能同架構上都唔係原生八核

咪又係 4Module = (Quad CORE) w/ eight Thread

講極都係話 FX 八核
八你個死人頭

FX-8xxx = Quad Core w/8 Thread = Core i5 - Core i7 (NOT LGA2011 Core i7)
FX-6xxx = Tri-Core w/6 Thread = Core i5
FX-4xxx = Dual CORE w/4 thread = Core i3

THERE IS NO 8Core , NO BLOODY 8CORE!

[ 本帖最後由 dom 於 2013-1-8 02:25 編輯 ]

作者: Henry 時間: 2013-1-8 02:40

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原帖由 dom 於 2013-1-8 02:21 發表
都話左 AMD Faildozer 唔係真8核囉
性能同架構上都唔係原生八核
咪又係 4Module = (Quad CORE) w/ eight Thread

講極都係話 FX 八核
八你個死人頭 :nono ...

遲D Intel就真八核。

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-8 02:42

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原帖由 Henry 於 2013/1/8 02:40 發表

遲D Intel就真八核。

到時個腦殘 8Core

作者: jackli 時間: 2013-1-8 07:10

Xeon e5-2650

作者: jackli 時間: 2013-1-8 08:50

好想擁有部 dual xeon 16core, 32thread...
但系擁有過 dual p3 的我應該仲未捨得買

作者: pk1667 時間: 2013-1-8 09:29

FX-8xxx = Quad Core w/8 Thread <- 我都以為係真 8CORE

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2013-1-8 12:37

You are wrong

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-8 15:40

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2013/1/8 12:37 發表
You are wrong

Faildozer still Epic Fail, just fail less with Poop(

)driver

作者: smallhonhon 時間: 2013-1-8 16:13

有齊ALU，FPU， L1， L2， L3 獨立行一THREAD 都唔計一CORE？

作者: smallhonhon 時間: 2013-1-8 16:18

哦～我明你想講咩 XD

作者: smallhonhon 時間: 2013-1-8 16:20

我成日都覺得將多CORE都唔係重點，係PERFORMANCE 有幾快

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-8 17:31

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原帖由 smallhonhon 於 2013/1/8 16:20 發表
我成日都覺得將多CORE都唔係重點，係PERFORMANCE 有幾快

The problem is It doesnt perform !
Just like GCN Vs Kepler

GCN spec look good on paper, but in reality it need "cheat" driver to cheat performance

[ 本帖最後由 dom 於 2013-1-8 17:33 編輯 ]

作者: kevinyuri 時間: 2013-1-8 17:32

44聲意頭唔好，88聲好聽d XD

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2013-1-8 19:23

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原帖由 dom 於 2013-1-8 17:31 發表

The problem is It doesnt perform !
Just like GCN Vs Kepler

GCN spec look good on paper, but in reality it need "cheat" driver to cheat performance

BS

以你講法, Atom D525唔係dual-core啦

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-8 19:43

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2013/1/8 19:23 發表

BS

以你講法, Atom D525唔係dual-core啦

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2013-1-8 19:44

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原帖由 dom 於 2013-1-8 19:43 發表

仲以為你有進步, 原來係

作者: 刺青 時間: 2013-1-8 19:47

http://www.amd.com/us/products/d ... fx/Pages/amdfx.aspx

native 8-core

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-8 22:01

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2013/1/8 19:44 發表

仲以為你有進步, 原來係

- 只能和 Core i5 上代同級憑咩叫 8Core
- 一 Heavy Load 就疾機咁叫 Mega Multi-thread 嗎 ?

作者: 62561 時間: 2013-1-8 23:13

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2013-1-8 19:23 發表

BS

以你講法, Atom D525唔係dual-core啦

Atom330同Atom D525我都有用,其實行XP好夠用,就算行Win8都唔慢,但唔好裝Vista.

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2013-1-9 03:52

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原帖由 dom 於 2013-1-8 22:01 發表

- 只能和 Core i5 上代同級憑咩叫 8Core
- 一 Heavy Load 就疾機咁叫 Mega Multi-thread 嗎 ?

Atom D525慢過Celeron 440, 憑咩叫dual-core, 又會疾機, 咁叫multi-thread咩?

你個理論全錯

效能同幾多個core無必然關係

作者: pk1667 時間: 2013-1-9 09:06

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2013-1-9 03:52 發表

效能同幾多個core無必然關係

呢樣我認同

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-9 09:41

How about Phenom II x6 1045T vs FX-6300
same hexa core, why near 100% cpu load situation , FX-6300 lag more and less responsive compare with Phenom II x6 ?

作者: Puff 時間: 2013-1-9 15:49

Whether it is dual-core is not decided by its relative performance level to its predecessor, but whether it has a monolithic dual-core performance in certain workloads is. No matter how someone says, a Bulldozer module does not fit the definition of SMT, at least from the core pipeline perspective.

There is no certain definition for "core", but there is one for SMT. So Orochi being quad-core, eight-thread fails this way. But does it really perform as a eight-core? It depends on implementation and workloads then, and undoubtedly Bulldozer doesn't have a catchy single-thread performance to facilitate its niche multi-core scaling.

[ 本帖最後由 Puff 於 2013-1-9 16:42 編輯 ]

作者: Puff 時間: 2013-1-9 15:53

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原帖由 dom 於 2013-1-8 17:31 發表

The problem is It doesnt perform !
Just like GCN Vs Kepler

GCN spec look good on paper, but in reality it need "cheat" driver to cheat performance

Simply because you just keep your eyes on the marketing figures, but not digging deep enough. Tahiti's fixed function does not have the level of GK104's. This is the fact. So cheat? No. It performs how it should be.

And it has the compute capability as AMD claimed. AMD does not give guidance on SI's graphics performance before launch either, only the benefits to compute.

[ 本帖最後由 Puff 於 2013-1-9 16:03 編輯 ]

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-9 16:46

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原帖由 Puff 於 2013/1/9 15:53 發表

Simply because you just keep your eyes on the marketing figures, but not digging deep enough. Tahiti's fixed function does not have the level of GK104's. This is the fact. So cheat? No. It performs h ...

It does not perform normally with DX9 title, where the F___ the backward compatibility?

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-9 17:06

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原帖由 Puff 於 2013/1/9 15:49 發表
Whether it is dual-core is not decided by its relative performance level to its predecessor, but whether it has a monolithic dual-core performance in certain workloads is. No matter how someone says, ...

Well thats why its call FAILDOZER

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-9 17:07

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原帖由 Puff 於 2013/1/9 15:49 發表
Whether it is dual-core is not decided by its relative performance level to its predecessor, but whether it has a monolithic dual-core performance in certain workloads is. No matter how someone says, ...

Well thats why its call FAILDOZER

作者: Puff 時間: 2013-1-9 17:40

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原帖由 dom 於 2013-1-9 17:07 發表

Well thats why its call FAILDOZER

And there are eight Faildozer cores.

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2013-1-9 20:40

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原帖由 dom 於 2013-1-9 09:41 發表
How about Phenom II x6 1045T vs FX-6300
same hexa core, why near 100% cpu load situation , FX-6300 lag more and less responsive compare with Phenom II x6 ?

你只需要答我
Atom D525慢過Celeron 440, 咁佢係dual-core定single-core

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-9 22:16

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2013/1/9 20:40 發表

你只需要答我
Atom D525慢過Celeron 440, 咁佢係dual-core定single-core

It's still a Dual

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2013-1-9 22:30

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原帖由 dom 於 2013-1-9 22:16 發表

It's still a Dual

ok, bulldozer is a slow 4-8 core, right?

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-9 22:38

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2013/1/9 22:30 發表

ok, bulldozer is a slow 4-8 core, right?

Slow Quad Core w/8Thread

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2013-1-9 22:38

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原帖由 dom 於 2013-1-9 22:38 發表

Slow Quad Core w/8Thread

you are stubborn and you do not give evidence

作者: qcmadness 時間: 2013-1-9 23:01

CMT vs HTT

http://www.anandtech.com/show/52 ... 276-a-closer-look/6

作者: dom 時間: 2013-1-9 23:34

AMD 快ｄ　啦

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