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[業界消息] [AMD] Zen CPU in 16, K12 CPU & Zen APU in 17

[AMD] Zen CPU in 16, K12 CPU & Zen APU in 17

TL;DR:
1. AMD prioritises the Zen CPU and FinFET-based graphics in 2016.
2. Zen APU in 2017.
3. Zen Gen 1 has 40% higher IPC over Excavator.
4. AM4: unified socket infrastructure for desktop in 2016.
5. K12 slips to 2017.
6. Cat & Bulldozer are gone for good. Just one x86 core.

AMD:
NOTs
1. No IoT endpoints (low-end microcontroller), no low-end tablets/mobile, no smartphones
2. No custom process technology, Not investing commodity IP
3. Less presence in low-end PC

GOALs
1. Focusing on Gaming, "Immersive platforms" (IoT connected devices), Datacenter, Network Infrastructures
2. High-perf cores, 2.5D/3D packaging, Software & APIs
3. Increased X86 investments, "Focused ARM investments"
4. "Simplified roadmap" - differentiated solutions over providing every options





- New Semi-custom design win. Ramp in 2017?
- PC is expected to be a significant part of revenue over the next few years. EESC over 50%.

Zen
- 1st generation: 40% higher IPC over Excavator
- 2016 availability



K12
- availability in 2017

GCN
- 2x performance per watt
- 2016: FinFET
- HBM


Fiji: 2.5D packaging, HBM memory on package
- GPUs are just the start: Opportunities to extend across AMD product portfolio

SOC
- Coherent HyperTransport based NOC interconnect


2015 Products
- Radeon R9/R7 300 Series, M300 Series
- Fiji "later this year"
- Carrizo first shipment in Q1, high volume ramp in Q2

2016 Products
- All New FX CPUs with Zen CPU cores
- New Desktop & Mobile APUs: Seems like a revision of Carrizo.
No explicit words on being Zen based. Seems that the original Summit Ridge and Bristol Ridge rumor is real.
- All on AM4




2016/17 Server Products
- x86 CPU, High Core Count
- ARM CPU, Storage, Networking & Embedded
Low power envelope like Xeon D or Avoton?
- APU
Multi-Teraflop! HBM?


[ 本帖最後由 Puff 於 2015-5-7 05:13 編輯 ]
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算吧漸啦amd

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仲要去到2016, 你執o左啦

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原帖由 XT 於 2015-5-7 08:55 發表
仲要去到2016, 你執o左啦
APU=2017

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原帖由 tamalemon 於 2015-5-7 09:20 發表


APU=2017
出粒膠水U頂住先佢又唔肯

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原帖由 XT 於 2015-5-7 09:27 發表

出粒膠水U頂住先佢又唔肯
壓注落 Zen CPU
如果按 FudZilla 嘅傳聞呢,Opteron 會喺 MCM (2.5D?) 兩至四粒 8C Zen,然後 socket level up to 2P
睇個樣應該喺想 2016 ramp. 因為張 roadmap 得佢可以喺 2016.


[ 本帖最後由 Puff 於 2015-5-7 11:52 編輯 ]

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IPC +40%, 但clock rate呢

如果真係clock rate維持到Kaveri既話, 就會係SandyBridge的IPC左右

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1270?vs=288

3D Particle Movement: Single Threaded
Score (Higher is Better)
A8-7600 (3.8GHz turbo): 69.56 > 97.38 (Projected Zen 3.8GHz)
i5-2500 (3.7GHz turbo): 117.5

Cinebench R10 - Single Threaded Benchmark
Score in CBMarks - Higher is Better
A8-7600 (3.8GHz turbo): 3928 > 5499 (Projected Zen 3.8GHz)
i5-2500 (3.7GHz turbo): 5860

Cinebench 11.5 - Single Threaded
Score in CBMarks - Higher is Better
A8-7600 (3.8GHz turbo): 0.98 > 1.37 (Projected Zen 3.8GHz)
i5-2500 (3.7GHz turbo): 1.47

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邊個話APU行先過CPU架

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2015-5-7 20:19 發表
IPC +40%, 但clock rate呢

如果真係clock rate維持到Kaveri既話, 就會係SandyBridge的IPC左右

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1270?vs=288

3D Particle Movement: Single Threaded
Score (Higher is Bet ...
去到果陣先SandyBridge有乜用

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2016 先出.....重要無講 Q1/Q4.....成年淨賣舊/清貨
天然系長髮眼鏡娘 最高
Lucky Star 聯盟 - 美幸
Kancolle - 大淀, 翔鶴 (太太), 烏海 , 瑞鶴

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原帖由 XT 於 2015-5-8 00:51 發表

去到果陣先SandyBridge有乜用
要睇功耗

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2015-5-8 06:51 發表

要睇功耗
無意思架喎
Intel唔係唔可以短時間內出唔到低功U

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原帖由 XT 於 2015-5-8 00:51 發表

去到果陣先SandyBridge有乜用
估計係終於承認apu真係比cpu低能影響
為左下一代apu可以推勁D gpu
佢決定推低cpu個電同熱先有得再玩
cpu效能只係順手提升下

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原帖由 tamalemon 於 2015-5-8 12:08 發表


估計係終於承認apu真係比cpu低能影響
為左下一代apu可以推勁D gpu
佢決定推低cpu個電同熱先有得再玩
cpu效能只係順手提升下
CPU慢到嘔泡都係無人理你
到時CORE M 都追晒上黎

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2015-5-7 20:24 發表
邊個話APU行先過CPU架
:0)

你唔提我本來都冇諗住出聲
起碼我大方向冇乜甩漏 喺估佢16最終會出乜嘅細節炒咗
架構細節果啲未出街 下年再講

啊邊個呢


[ 本帖最後由 Puff 於 2015-5-8 15:53 編輯 ]

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