tat0801

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原帖由 Sandbo 於 2017-2-28 08:01 發表

Almost like spelling it out how strong Ryzen actually is

一定啦，今次AMD NDA 做得咁好？
INTEL 好似完全無預計過咁
精力去左做baseband想拎生果單

qcmadness

https://www.techpowerup.com/2312 ... mises?cp=2#comments

XT

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原帖由 kevinyuri 於 2017-3-5 02:46 發表
http://www.evolife.cn/computer/54351.html
呢個作者講解得好仔細,CCX之間latency唔細

Ref. from : https://bbs.hk-spot.com/viewthre ... p;page=2#pid1893812

qcmadness

http://www.tweaktown.com/article ... -preview/index.html

Puff

打算落搭 1700X
iMac 十世都唔出


過兩日落場睇吓有乜板同有冇貨先
唔記得之前 sandro 推果隻 modular 牛牛乜型號添


[ 本帖最後由 Puff 於 2017-3-9 01:11 編輯 ]

Sandbo

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原帖由 Puff 於 2017-3-8 23:39 發表
打算落搭 1700X
iMac 十世都唔出


過兩日落場睇吓有乜板同有冇貨先
唔記得之前 sandro 推果隻 modular 牛牛乜型號添

Why not 1700?
All those three are 99% same, except the X series has so called XFR.
If you overclock them, the highest clock are all within 100 MHz.

Puff

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原帖由 Sandbo 於 2017-3-9 01:58 發表

Why not 1700?
All those three are 99% same, except the X series has so called XFR.
If you overclock them, the highest clock are all within 100 MHz.

Had a game bound by single thread, and not interested in OC either. Thought OCing would disable many of the power mgmt features, wouldn't it?


Edit: It seems the idle states are still there. Hmm.
Edit 2: Eyeing for the MSI B350 boards.

[ 本帖最後由 Puff 於 2017-3-9 03:12 編輯 ]

Sandbo

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原帖由 Puff 於 2017-3-9 03:00 發表

Had a game bound by single thread, and not interested in OC either. Thought OCing would disable many of the power mgmt features, wouldn't it?


Edit: It seems the idle states are still there.  ...

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Pr ... utm_medium=facebook

The modern OC (not really sure about AMD, but for Intel Skylake at least) does not alter the power saving feature;
it will still be the same idle power (given you use an adaptive core voltage instead of a fixed one).

If you refer to my link, 1700/1800X are just the same.......AMD binned the chips by voltage needed, it had certain effects on overclocking ability, but from all I have seen so far, 1700 and 1800X do not show much of a difference on how fast they can be clocked to.
The worst maybe you need to lower the RAM clock to to like 2666 MHz for 1700 to stay at 3.9-4 GHz, but it changes nothing....

I probably will get a 1700, overclock it to 3.8 GHz, but later.

PS: If single thread performance is your major concern, KabyLake is definitely better.
In this case you might want to wait for Skylake-X, which (hopefully) will be having a more reasonable price without losing the single thread stuff.  


[ 本帖最後由 Sandbo 於 2017-3-9 06:51 編輯 ]

Sandbo

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原帖由 tat0801 於 2017-2-28 12:30 發表

一定啦，今次AMD NDA 做得咁好？
INTEL 好似完全無預計過咁
精力去左做baseband想拎生果單

They will take back the lead with Skylake-X effortlessly; what they may have to compromise is just the price.

Puff

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原帖由 Sandbo 於 2017-3-9 06:49 發表

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Pr ... utm_medium=facebook

The modern OC (not really sure about AMD, but for Intel Skylake at least) do ...

That load power though.

Sandbo

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原帖由 Puff 於 2017-3-9 11:55 發表

That load power though.

This is even less than when I overclock my 6700k to 4.4GHz....... It's no big deal, if your cooler is better; the money you can save from 1700X is worth a very good water cooler.

And we are taking about 33% performance gain here, not the 10% Intel is sparing me.

[ 本帖最後由 Sandbo 於 2017-3-9 13:32 編輯 ]

tat0801

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原帖由 Puff 於 2017-3-8 23:39 發表
打算落搭 1700X
iMac 十世都唔出


過兩日落場睇吓有乜板同有冇貨先
唔記得之前 sandro 推果隻 modular 牛牛乜型號添

iMac 點都拖到四月中尾嫁啦
我睇因RYZEN 出現，令到生果同INTEL 最後第二水供應pricing 未傾好，個價會唔會比而家iMac加係未知數
美國方面都應要加少少價

Puff

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原帖由 Sandbo 於 2017-3-9 12:05 發表

This is even less than when I overclock my 6700k to 4.4GHz....... It's no big deal, if your cooler is better; the money you can save from 1700X is worth a very good water cooler.

And we are taking a ...

Hmm, interesting. That said at this price point KBL does seem very attractive out of the box, esp 7700K doesn't seem too far behind 8-core Ryzen in Linux compilation benchmarks, while I am not really into the places where Ryzen shines (media editing).

Decisions, decisions, decisions.


P.S. Moreover, dom seems getting 1700 soon.


[ 本帖最後由 Puff 於 2017-3-9 13:30 編輯 ]

tat0801

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原帖由 Puff 於 2017-3-9 13:11 發表

Hmm, interesting. That said at this price point KBL does seem very attractive out of the box, esp 7700K doesn't seem too far behind 8-core Ryzen in Linux compilation benchmarks, while I am not really ...

doom effect in action

GGGGGGGGGGGG

Puff

seems like P1/P2 is still available in OC mode, hmm.