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I don't think 14nm is feasible before 2016 without EUV AND double-patterning.

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原帖由 Puff 於 2012-9-21 00:12 發表

Well, according to AMD's manufacturing roadmap in 2010, 14nm APU is planned for production in late 2015 IIRC.
For double-patterning, GF is implementing it in their 20nm node. They've also started tes ...

20nm其實應該唔駛double patterning
EUV係必須, 但係暫時良率唔ok

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原帖由 Puff 於 2012-9-21 00:15 發表

I am thinking about AMD to push their first phone- and tablet-optimized SoC in 2015. Recently they are developing their own ISP IP core, and hiring architects for wireless infrastructure.

我諗2015太慢

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原帖由 Puff 於 2012-9-21 18:04 發表

ULP APU for tablets...
2013: Temash down to 3.6-watt TDP
2014: 20nm. Perhaps down to 2.5-watt TDP?
2015: 14nm Low Power? Perhaps down to 1.5-watt TDP?

不過問題是人家 AMD 想不想玩 smartphone，和 x86 入 ...

> 2W is too much for tablet
> 0.5W is too much for smartphone

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原帖由 Puff 於 2012-9-21 21:49 發表

I think maximally ~1-1.5 watt is fine. Tegra 2 is reported to have a power consumption of 1+ watt (below 2) when it's fully loaded.
And the figure refers to the entire SoC. Idle and general use power ...

I don't think AMD can make sub-1.5W SoC in coming 2 years.

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原帖由 siuba 於 2012-9-22 02:41 發表
intel 2014年尾都未必出到..唔信其他得..

intel未出既話，equipment會係天價