dom

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原帖由 cainester 於 2013/8/7 17:43 發表
http://forum.techinferno.com/diy ... -internal-lcd-%5Bus$250%5D.html

真係登 AMD APU 唔抵.......
推咁耐都係無人識

我買 APU Notebook 就係為左咁
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ3kJm8vE-8

外加一堆野 倒不如整合埋係部機

[ 本帖最後由 dom 於 2013-8-7 19:05 編輯 ]

dom

No one care APU

dom

remeber few years ago Isaid I want notebook can play game and light ,APU is getting there but Intel now rob all the effort and every ppl think Intel Ultrabook is cool

dom

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原帖由 cainester 於 2013/8/8 15:13 發表

Poor sister dom

Last  Informal Techday I brought my Thinkpad Edge and play game on battery
When QC's Thinkpad X300 cant

Its one of the reason I like APU and notebook with decent graphic
Gaming @ mobile

But now new gen. intel Onboard can play lu

dom

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原帖由 cainester 於 2013/8/8 17:01 發表

我個妹之前用緊JBL creature用用下都立左我對klipsch 2.0
搞到我要再買過

Your sis is smart

dom

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原帖由 ~Mars~ 於 2013/8/8 23:16 發表

There is a lot of middle ground in between

If there is a commercialized eGPU product within HK$1k, I'd probably buy it. Couple that with a $~1.5k graphics card and I'm set

Most PC gamers don't have ...

Yes , but the problem is
If you want to place "mid-range" ( $1000~2000) External graphic card
Most of them require at least 1x 6pin and 150W+ PSU to have "decent" performance
don't forget "mid-range" card usually require Dual Slot placement , graphic card + PSU air cooling / ventilation solution.

In the end the External VGA box won't be small and it won't be cheap as well

dom

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原帖由 cainester 於 2013/8/8 23:45 發表

If people are willing to pay extra for an external enclosure, I'd call it a success not a flaw, because that means there is a market for these products.

Not everyone sees value only in raw horsepowe ...

cainester
I don't want to be "closed mind" but as I owned two "Mid-range" card

Here is the card
HD7850 2GB GDDR5 and
GeForce GTX660 2GB GDDR5


Both cost around ~$1600 and can handle most game @ 1080p

Both run nicely when you place it in ATX case
but starting to place either card into smaller computer case (For example SG-02)


I know you may think I shouldn't compare this case with the things you mention
but I have to point out even with this "space" around

When the card run modern game ( like Battlefield 3 for example) , the temperature of the card goes up to 68C.

I tried fit it into smaller space like ITX case (SG-05)
but fitting Mid-range performance card into SG05 will start to have problem keeping the card from overheating  

Maybe custom built ITX rig can do the trick
http://www.falcon-nw.com/desktops/tiki
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-22UPqoARmo

but the External case won't be very small as it still need to fit a 150W ~ 200W PSU and cooling capacity  to keep the graphic card cool.

Of courser there are easier way for not so "mid-range" graphic solution (but don't expect to play new game and have good experience )

Another "solution" for reduce the size is using Mobile graphic card ( which won't be cheap as well )

dom

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原帖由 XT 於 2013/8/9 01:04 發表

external display card 既作用係 ...
我要 mobile 就抽走部機即刻行出去
返到屋企插條線可以插多幾個mon黎用 , 仲打到機 ...

所以佢既大細以至到用電量都唔會係首要既考慮 ...

問題係到依家所見既 solution 細極有限.....一係就無有效率既　接機
(有 Docking 或者行 FireWire / Thunderbolt / ExpressCard )

我都想見到 , 我由頭到尾唔反對呢樣野

由我用第一部 Notebook 開始　已經想有呢類野
- 部 S2210 當年係差張顯卡 (有趣既係　個陣既 RS480 已經係 好過同期 Intel )
- 到去到 Thinkpad X100e , 就因為廠問題　用左 RS780 (Mobile HD3200) 無左硬解 Flash 又係差ｄ
個陣我又係話想換好ｄ　顯卡

- 再換 Thinkpad Edge 13 AMD (現役) , 其他一般用已經夠 , HD4200 幾好，
但係我拿黎玩下game 又係差ｄ, 有得勁ｄ　顯卡就好

點解我鍾意 AMD APU 另一個原因就係　因為CPU 送埋 Graphic 又可以玩到下game
(雖然 AMD APU Notebook 係香港係唔賣得　亦都唔受落 , D OEM 廠又低能設計,  AMD 粒U 功耗又唔生性 )

不過依家 連 Intel 都係咁推 iGPU (= APU) 推到追平手了 , 當連內顯性能追上入門級顯卡
插 External Graphic /Docking 既 market 只會更難生存

點解我砌 ITX 加顯卡 (QC 係掉轉，　砌 ITX 用 Onboard )
我用黎用去都建議人唔好用咁細個箱就係因為　顯卡發熱量　要有翻咁上下性能就唔會細
你要唔太熱又玩到下　又唔想另加插電類既 得 GT640 / HD7730 / HD7750 級
如果整 External VGA Docking既話　配呢ｄ　卡至少慳位 , 供電同散熱容易解決左

問題係　呢ｄ　級數已經比 Onboard GPU 追得好近　，　生存空間亦都有限
廠商真係整 External VGA Dock 佢整個box 比你最高塞到 HD7750 級比你打機 但係賣 $2000
你收唔收貨先

或者我講咁耐　可能用gamer 觀點睇唔似
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/har ... hics-card-case-deb/
其實係有廠整的，　只不過未必係細部

http://www.extremetech.com/compu ... l-not-blow-you-away
工作用　既　都有
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/06/amd_launches_xgp/
AMD 2008 年個陣已經提出過　，　點解無人整　，　唔好問我點解

如果你問　出呢類產品比 Notebook (不限品牌/機種，　只要有 Thunderbolt 接頭就得)
而價錢合理又配到　性能級顯卡玩既話　
我大機 (= 美幸號) 都唔駛用了

[ 本帖最後由 dom 於 2013-8-9 01:42 編輯 ]

dom

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原帖由 XT 於 2013/8/9 01:04 發表

external display card 既作用係 ...
我要 mobile 就抽走部機即刻行出去
返到屋企插條線可以插多幾個mon黎用 , 仲打到機 ...

所以佢既大細以至到用電量都唔會係首要既考慮 ...

so $300 USD Thunderbolt powered External Graphic Card solution is out already
(Excluded Graphic card)

You can buy one

dom

Looks like I terminate the thread again

dom

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原帖由 XT 於 2013/8/10 01:26 發表

所以下一步咪係用 wireless 去接
而家都有 WiDi , AirPlay 去接 monitor
display card 都係遲早

如果你有留意
前年我去 COMPUTEX, 一向唔多想去 Intel Booth 睇既我
都係因為 WiDi 玩無線 引左我埋去 , 只不過可能 Intel 授權食水深
兩年黎 話就話 內顯 Sandy Bridge個代已經 Built in support WiDI , 只不過要 External ....
太貴了 無人同你 Intel 顛

[ 本帖最後由 dom 於 2013-8-10 08:11 編輯 ]

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原帖由 cheungmanhoi 於 2013/8/9 16:39 發表

限品牌/機種，　只要有 Thunderbolt 接頭就得)
而價錢合理又配到　性能級顯卡玩既話

兼容夾機 個度可以用 Thunderbolt + Software 解決到既...
問題係 Driver 個度要 A/N 支援

dom

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原帖由 qcmadness 於 2013/8/10 01:27 發表

Wireless display card? 咁不如remote gaming (for PS5 / Xbox Two?)
仲好過用PC

N記個 SHIELD 咪係囉
用 N 記顯卡 (要支援 Wireless , 呢part唔知佢有無指定要用乜) => Project SHIELD 拿住 =>  Video 出電視show 畫面

dom

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原帖由 XT 於 2013/8/10 01:32 發表

唔睇佢地狗咬狗骨邊有得科技進步

Intel - nV = 老黃唔想傾
Intel - ARM / AMD - nV = 都可以傾既 , 不過兩間都係對手.....
nV - ARM = 呢個有potential , 問題係 老黃......
nV - ARM / AMD - ARM = 唔好話我個人偏好, ARM 缺既 AMD 有, AMD 缺錢 , 以 AMD 話會入 ARM market (Server?)
砌 ARM based Opteron 既做法,
係 ARM 陣營個邊 AMD 係除左 PowerVR (Imagtion) 同nVIDIA 之外 有得傾 + 手上拿住 GPU 有關既 IP既

nV 唔係唔得, 問題係 nV 係其他 ARM 廠既直接對手 + 老黃性格  + Tegra 大家心照咩事架啦
(Tegra 2 -> Tegra 4 都係唔賣得 N 記主業 GPU 可以撐到幾耐 )

[ 本帖最後由 dom 於 2013-8-10 08:20 編輯 ]

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原帖由 XT 於 2013/8/10 01:19 發表

你唔好用我地既用法去諗一般既 user , 永遠都會錯的
你要記住佢地係低能架真係

整咁多部機? 痴o左線咩 ...

所以而家既發展方向係 , Tower 愈出愈勁 , 例子有 Mac Pro
另外 mobility 去出 MBA ,  ...

我都係做左依家份工 對得 "一般user" 多 先明點解 AMD 打唔入商用market