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[硬件] Rumoured Desktop Processor Roadmap for Intel / AMD in 2007 (7/11/07)

Rumoured Desktop Processor Roadmap for Intel / AMD in 2007 (7/11/07)

The information / rumour collected below is from Dailytech / Anandtech, HKEPC news and X-Bit news and is subjected to changes over time. I hope this can help all of us about upcoming Intel / AMD products in 2007.

Last updated: 7th November 2007
This is the last update for this article. I will focus on the 2008 roadmap from now on. Thank you very much for the support of this article.

Content:
1. Intel Processors
2. AMD Processors
3. Current and future pricing
4. About the manufacturing side
5. Reference

Recent edit: Updated AMD model numbers and Phenom series, fixed Brisbane issue, updated Phenom pricing

Special thanks to Jeda (HKEPC forum), Wombat2 (TG Forum, 2 times), qOJDO (TG Forum), wa2000 (HKEPC forum), xtreme2k (HKEPC forum), 死得*冇者回龜 (HKEPC forum) for corrections and updates.

1. Intel processors:
a. Core 2 Duo E4x00 series
Release time: E4300 (phased out), E4400, E4500, E4600 (selling)
Code name: Allendale (stepping L2, M0)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 2MB shared
Clock speeds: 1.8GHz (E4300), 2.0GHz (E4400), 2.2GHz (E4500), 2.4GHz (E4600)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 800MHz FSB (6.4GB/s)
Other specifications: no Virtualization Technology
Expected price: E4400 - $113, E4500 - $113, E4600 - $133
Expected market position: to replace Pentium D

My commemt: As the FSB is only 800MHz, they are expected to overclock well. The aggressive pricing strategies of Intel will give a hard time on AMD, as E4x00 series have a higher performance than similar priced Athlon64 x2s.

b. Core 2 Quad Q6x00
Release time: selling
Code name: Kentsfield (stepping B3, G0)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 4
L2 cache size: 2 blocks of 4MB shared
Clock speeds: 2.4GHz (Q6600), 2.66GHz (Q6700)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1066MHz FSB (8.5GB/s)
Other specifications: (none)
Expected price: Q6600 - $266, Q6700 - $530
Expected market position: new position

My commemt: The aggressive pricing for them are giving a hard time on AMD. Another sweet spots are the low-end Xeon 3210 (2.13GHz) and 3220 (2.4GHz), which are sold at lower prices than C2Qs ($224 for X3210). The new Xeons are expected to be very price-competitive. With a new stepping (G0), the quad-cores are expected to be cooler and more overclockable.

c. Core 2 Quad QX68x0
Release time: selling
Code name: Kentsfield (stepping B3, G0)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 4
L2 cache size: 2 blocks of 4MB shared
Clock speeds: 2.93GHz (QX6800), 3.0GHz (QX6850)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: QX6800 - 1066MHz FSB (8.5GB/s), QX6850 - 1333MHz FSB (10.7GB/s)
Other specifications: unlocked multiplier
Expected price: QX6800 - $999, QX6850 - $999
Expected market position: to replace QX6700

My commemt: An upgraded version of QX6700. The 1066MHz version and the 1333MHz FSB version should have similar performance, according to Tom\'s Hardware\'s test on Core 2 Quad QX6700 at 1066MHz FSB and 1333MHz FSB.

d. Core 2 Duo E6320 / E6420
Release time: selling
Code name: Conroe (stepping B2)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 4MB shared
Clock speeds: 1.86GHz (E6320), 2.13GHz (E6420)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1066MHz FSB (8.5GB/s)
Other specifications: (none)
Expected price: E6320 - $163, E6420 - $183
Expected market position: to replace E6300 and E6400.

My commemt: Intel plans to phase out these two processors. Not much to mention here.

e. Pentium E21x0 series
Release time: E2140, E2160 (selling), E2180 (Q3 or Q4)
Code name: Allendale (stepping L2, M0)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 1MB shared
Clock speeds: 1.6GHz (E2140), 1.8GHz (E2160), 2.0GHz (E2180)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 800MHz FSB (6.4GB/s)
Other specifications: no Virtualization Technology
Expected price: E2140 - $71 (rumoured to be $64 in Q3), E2160 - $84 ($74 in Q3 or Q4), E2180 - $84 (Q3 or Q4)
Expected market position: to replace Pentium D

My commemt: They are the cut-down versions of Core 2 Duo E4x00 series. The performance of them are similar to slightly higher clocked Athlon64 x2s with a slightly better value. As their FSB is only 800MHz, they are expected to overclock well.

f. Celeron 4x0 series
Release time: Selling
Code name: Conroe-L (stepping A1)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 1
L2 cache size: 512KB
Clock speeds: 1.6GHz (C420), 1.8GHz (C430), 2.0GHz (C440)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 800MHz FSB (6.4GB/s)
Other specifications: no Virtualization Technology
Expected price: C420 - $39, C430 - $49, C440 - $59
Expected market position: to replace Celeron D

My commemt: They are the only single core CPUs in the Intel roadmap. They perform well against slightly higher-clocked single-core K8 Semprons and Athlon64s. There is a chance of extreme overclocking.

g. Core 2 Duo E6x50 series
Release time: Selling
Code name: Conroe (stepping G0)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 4MB shared
Clock speeds: 2.33GHz (E6550), 2.66GHz (E6750), 3.00GHz (E6850)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1333MHz FSB (10.7GB/s)
Other specifications: Trusted Execution Technology
Expected price: E6550 - $163, E6750 - $183, E6850 - $266
Expected market position: to replace E6x00 and E6x20

My commemt: As the X-Bit Labs report showed that only 1-2% gains in performance for 1333MHz FSB over 1066MHz FSB, the major reason for releasing these products is to make more money from upgrading FSB. A new stepping (G0) helps the chips to gain more overclock headroom with slightly lower power consumptions. There are spectulations that these CPUs will be short-lived after 45nm CPUs are ramped up fast in early 2008.

h. Core 2 Duo E6540 series
Release time: Selling
Code name: Conroe (stepping G0)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 4MB shared
Clock speeds: 2.33GHz
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1333MHz FSB (10.7GB/s)
Other specifications: no Trusted Execution Technology
Expected price: $163
Expected market position: to replace E6x00 and E6x20

My commemt: Same as Core 2 Duo E6x50. But since it has the same price as E6550, I would recommend E6550 instead of E6540.

i. Core 2 Quad QX9650
Release time: 12th Nov
Code name: Yorkfield (unknown stepping)
Fabrication process: 45nm
Number of Cores: 4
L2 cache size: 2 blocks of 3MB or 6MB shared
Clock speeds: 3GHz
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1333MHz FSB (10.7GB/s)
Other specifications: SSE4.1, enhanced Virtualization Technology
Expected price: $999
Expected market position: to replace 65nm Core 2 Quad series

My commemt: Revised Core 2 Quad products. According to HKEPC\'s preview, the performance per clock will increase by around 5-20%. And the processor runs cooler also. The higher frequency for the series will maintain the lead of Intel over AMD.

2. AMD processors:
a. Athlon64 FX 4x4 series
Release time: FX-70, FX-72 (phased out), FX-74 (selling)
Code name: Santa Rosa / Windsor (revision F3)
Fabrication process: 90nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 2 blocks of 1MB
Clock speeds: 2.6GHz (FX-70), 2.8GHz (FX-72), 3.0GHz (FX-74)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1GHz HTT (8GB/s)
Other specifications: two dual-core CPUs in a pack
Expected price: FX-74 - $599
Expected market position: new position

My commemt: Knee-jerk reaction with Intel new dual-core and quad-core processors. Not even a peep at them.

b. Athlon64 x2 series
Release time: x2 3600+ (phased out), x2 4000+, x2 4400+, x2 4800+, x2 5000+ (selling), x2 5200+
Code name: Brisbane (revision G1, G2)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 2 blocks of 512KB
Clock speeds: 1.9GHz, (x2 3600+), 2.1GHz (x2 4000+), 2.3GHz (x2 4400+), 2.5GHz (x2 4800+), 2.6GHz (x2 5000+), 2.7GHz (x2 5200+)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1GHz HTT (8GB/s)
Other specifications: 0.5x multiplier
Expected price: x2 3600+ - phased out, x2 4000+ - $68, x2 4400+ - $89, x2 4800+ - $104, x2 5000+ - $115, x2 5200+  - $125
Expected market position: to replace the 90nm products

My commemt: The 65nm versions of Athlon x2 series. They are cooler but not much better in overclocking than 90nm ones. The new introduction of 0.5x multiplier helps AMD to have more products within the small speed bins, but it seems that AMD will not make use of this to release more products. The 65nm products are slower than the 90nm ones as they have higher L2 latencies and worse memory frequencies. The Athlon64 x2 5200+ is not officially announced but is present.

c. Athlon64 x2 6000+
Release time: x2 6000+(selling)
Code name: Windsor (revision F3)
Fabrication process: 90nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 2 blocks of 1MB
Clock speeds: x2 6000+ - 3.0GHz
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1GHz HTT (8GB/s)
Other specifications: (none)
Expected price: x2 6000+ - $167
Expected market position: to compete with high-end Core 2 Duos

My commemt: x2 6000+ is slightly more expensive and higher power consumption than E6600 at similar performance, but maybe remarkable to AMD for first "mainstream" 3GHz offering. x2 6000+ may become less power hungry as AMD may introduce 89W x2 6000+ later.

d. Athlon64 / Athlon LE series
Release time: 3500+, 3800+ (phased out), LE-1600, LE-1620 (selling)
Code name: Lima (revision G1)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 1
L2 cache size: 512KB (3500+, 3800+), 1MB (LE-1600, LE-1620)
Clock speeds: 2.2GHz (3500+, LE-1600), 2.4GHz (3800+, LE-1620)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1GHz HTT (8GB/s)
Other specifications: (none)
Expected price: 3500+, 3800+ - phased out, LE-1600 - $47, LE-1620 - $53
Expected market position: to replace 90nm products

My commemt: The 65nm versions of Athlon64 series. They should be cooler and overclock better than 90nm ones. The new Athlon LE series boast 1MB of L2 cache, but it seems that Celeron 4x0 series and cheap dual-core CPUs will kill this product line.

e. Athlon x2 BE series
Release time: BE-2300, BE-2350, BE-2400 (Selling)
Code name: Brisbane (revision G1, G2)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 2 blocks of 512KB
Clock speeds: 1.9GHz, (BE-2300), 2.1GHz (BE-2350), 2.3GHz (BE-2400)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1GHz HTT (8GB/s)
Other specifications: 0.5x multiplier (x2 5000+ BE), unlocked multiplier
Expected price: BE-2300 - $91, BE-2350 - $96, BE-2400 - $104
Expected market position: to replace 90nm energy efficient products

My commemt: The low-voltage edition of Athlon64 x2 65nm products. The overclock-ability may be lower than the standard edition. The higher prices for Ax2 BE series are not so competitive. Surprisingly, these processors got a price increase in October ($5 raise for BE-2300 and BE-2350).

f. Sempron LE series
Release time: LE-1100, LE-1150, LE-1200, LE-1250 (selling)
Code name: Sparta (revision G1, G2)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 1
L2 cache size: 256KB (LE-1100, LE-1150), 512KB (LE-1200, LE-1250)
Clock speeds: 1.9GHz (LE-1100), 2.0GHz (LE-1150), 2.1GHz (LE-1200), 2.2GHz (LE-1250)
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 800MHz HTT (6.4GB/s)
Other specifications: no Virtualization
Expected price: LE-1100 - $37, LE-1150 - $42, LE-1200 - $48, LE-1250 - $53
Expected market position: to replace 90nm products and single-core Athlon64 products

My commemt: The 65nm versions of Sempron series with lower TDP values of 45W. Not much to mention here. LE-1100 and LE-1150 may be for emerging market only. Surprisingly, these processors got a price increase in October ($5 raise for LE-1150).

g. Athlon64 x2 Black Edition
Release time: x2 5000+ BE, x2 6400+ BE (selling)
Code name: x2 6400+ BE - Windsor (revision F3), x2 5000+ BE - Brisbane (revision G1)
Fabrication process: 65nm (x2 5000+ BE), 90nm (x2 6400+ BE)
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 2 blocks of 512KB (x2 5000+ BE), 2 blocks of 1MB (x2 6400+ BE)
Clock speeds: x2 5000+ BE - 2.6GHz, x2 6400+ BE - 3.2GHz
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 1GHz HTT (8GB/s)
Other specifications: unlocked multiplier, half multiplier (x2 5000+ BE only)
Expected price: x2 5000+ BE - $136, x2 6400+ BE - $220
Expected market position: to compete with high-end Core 2 Duos

My commemt: In my opinion, introducing x2 5000+ BE and x2 6400+ BE is a complete waste of time as AMD should gear up for next generation architecture CPUs\' launch.

h. Phenom 9x00 series
Release time: 9500, 9600, 9700 (19th Nov)
Code name: Agena (unknown revision)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 4
L2 cache size: 4 blocks of 512KB
L3 cache size: 2MB shared
Clock speeds: 9500 - 2.2GHz, 9600 - 2.3GHz, 9700 - 2.4GHz
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 3.6GHz HTT (14.4GB/s(?))
Other specifications: separate power planes, NUMA memory controllers, Socket AM2+, SSE4A
Expected price: 9500 - $280, 9600 - $320, 9700 - $330
Expected market position: new position

My commemt: From the Barcelona\'s benchmark, the new Phenom series will not be competitive to top-models of Core Arch. CPUs. From the price, Q6600 seems to be a better choice.

i. Athlon 6x00 series
Release time: rumoured to be in Q4
Code name: Kuma (unknown revision)
Fabrication process: 65nm
Number of Cores: 2
L2 cache size: 2 blocks of 512KB
L3 cache size: 2MB shared
Clock speeds: rumoured to be 2.0GHz-2.4GHz
Processor-to-northbridge speed: 3.6GHz HTT (14.4GB/s(?))
Other specifications: separate power planes, NUMA memory controllers, Socket AM2+, SSE4A
Expected price: unknown
Expected market position: to replace high-end Athlon64 x2 series

My commemt: TFrom the Barcelona\'s benchmark, the new Phenom series will not be competitive to top-models of Core Arch. CPUs. But from the pricing point of view, AMD may an edge with low prices of processors sold.

3. Current and future Intel and AMD pricing
1. Intel: Current
Quad-core CPUs
QX6850: $999
QX6800: $999
QX6700: phased out
Q6700: $530
Q6600: $266

Dual-core CPUs
E6850: $266
E6750: $183
E6700: $316
E6600: $224
E6550: $163
E6540: $163
E6420: $183
E6320: $163
E4600: $133
E4500: $113
E4400: $113
E4300: phased out
P-E2180: $84
P-E2160: $74
P-E2140: $64

Single-core CPUs
C440: $59
C430: $44
C420: $34

2. AMD: Current
Dual dual-core CPUs
A64 FX-74: $599 / pair

Dual-core CPUs
A64x2 6400+ BE: $220
A64x2 6000+: $167
A64x2 5600+: $146
A64x2 5200+: $125
A64x2 5000+ BE: $136
A64x2 5000+: $115
A64x2 4800+: $105
A64x2 4400+: $89
A64x2 4200+: $78
A64x2 4000+: $68
Ax2 BE-2400: $104
Ax2 BE-2350: $96
Ax2 BE-2300: $91

Single-core CPUs
Athlon LE-1620: $53
Athlon LE-1600: $47
A64 4000+: $58
A64 3800+: $50
A64 3500+: $45
Sempron LE-1250: $53
Sempron LE-1200: $48
Sempron LE-1150: $42
Sempron LE-1100: $37
Sempron 3800+: $53
Sempron 3600+: $42
Sempron 3400+: $37

4. About the manufacturing side:
1. Intel
They are now leading in CPU performance and power consumption. The transition to 45nm is healthy as Intel will announce 45nm server processors on 12th November. Intel will have 4 fabrication plants with 45nm technology in 2008.

2. AMD
They are ramping up 65nm products slowly. Fab 30 is still producing CPU with 90nm fabriacation process. AMD has announced a cut in capital expansion expenses and the transition plan for Fab 30 is not clear now. With the $3.7B Convertible Senior Notes, AMD repayed the debt from Morgan Stanley last year and some restrictions of the debt have ceased. Now AMD should be more flexible for capital expansion and other financial activities.

5. Reference:
Intel processors:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=2955
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3069
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchip ... aspx?i=3102&p=3
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4965
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4589
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5414
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5595
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5917
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5921
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6185
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=6484
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=6488
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=6838
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=7277
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=7674
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=8657
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8928
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9070
http://www.hkepc.com/?id=171 (Chinese)
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=699783
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=698063
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=686996
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=686858
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=675864
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=698153
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=698181
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=714230
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=754873
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=755282
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=755292
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=772180
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=789466
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.ph ... view&rid=837360 (Chinese)
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20061114043059.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20060930234444.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070104212549.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070413235345.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles ... alcore-roundup.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070702235718.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070817173238.html
http://media.corporate-ir.net/me ... price_list10_07.pdf

AMD processors:
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2768
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3038
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3092
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4422
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4942
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4943
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5874
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5992
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=7136
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7157
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7468
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=7537
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=7912
http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=7914
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7960
[urllhttp://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8221[/url]
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8254
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8729
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9237
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9545
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=699767
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=629089
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=679375
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=678736
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/itnews.php?tid=715237
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/viewthr ... &extra=page%3D1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20061017130006.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070619121402.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070723052410.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070820092817.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20070925185344.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20071015233403.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles ... alcore-roundup.html
http://www.amd.com/t3pricing

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